Sony PlayStatioon 4

[Reck]

Consoles.

For those closed minded, console only gamers hating on PC for the stereotypical reasons..don't worry, you'll be the proud owner of Steambox/PC sooner than later..

Steam just eclipsed 7 million concurrent users a week ago, up 1 million from last years record. On top of that they just leapfrogged the active Xbox Live user base with over 65 million users. Give Gabe Newell three years, he will be sitting atop the video game industry.

http://news.yahoo.com/head-steam-val...013013485.html
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/30/v...million-users/
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...current-users/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ste.../1100-6416507/

The writing is on the wall, might as well get on board and enjoy the future now, instead of staying close minded and settling for less. I look forward to gaming with you console faithful, I will embrace you with open arms.




500.00 and struggling to display 1080p
"PC gamers are geeks hunched over desks"
"I will never buy a PC because I want to use a wireless controller"

PC Enthusiasts have been declaring doomsday for the consoles for decades now. how's it working out scrah?

No idea why PC gamers like bringing up stats and whatever. It dont really matter. People will buy what suits them best.

Do you know why console only players like you so call us give you guys a hard time and are always laughing at you for trying to forced PC gaming down our throats? Because you all think you're some sort of deity that are above everyone. Give me a break.

[DJR210]

PC Enthusiasts have been declaring doomsday for the consoles for decades now. how's it working out scrah?

No idea why PC gamers like bringing up stats and whatever. It dont really matter. People will buy what suits them best.

Do you know why console only players like you so call us give you guys a hard time and are always laughing at you for trying to forced PC gaming down our throats? Because you all think you're some sort of deity that are above everyone. Give me a break.

angry

[DJR210]

All bull aside Shadowflames, do you consider yourself a casual gamer, or a more "serious" ( ing xmas1997 ruined the word tbh) gamer?

[NASpurs]

Can someone explain to me what a Steambox is without making it sound like a console?

[Cry Havoc]

PC Enthusiasts have been declaring doomsday for the consoles for decades now. how's it working out scrah?

What? No. Not even. For the past 8+ years it's been "PCs are dying and won't be around much longer because the entire world is moving to consoles."

[Cry Havoc]

Can someone explain to me what a Steambox is without making it sound like a console?

No such thing as a console anymore.

[Reck]

angry

go to line when they have zero comeback.
posting irrelevant stats no one cares about
posting an essay and countless references no one reads
try hards
nerdiest people in the gaming industry
looked upon as lonely, no lifer fat asses with nothing better to do


(Not directed at you or Cry)

[NASpurs]

No such thing as a console anymore.

Further explain yourself please. I've been out of the loop and reading up the wiki it continues to use the word "console".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_%...#Steam_Machine

[DJR210]

Can someone explain to me what a Steambox is without making it sound like a console?

That's basically what is, NASpurs. Gabe Newell is taking the convenience of consoles, with the power and expandability of PC's. The Steambox is basically the moderately priced PC for those who simply refuse to buy the parts and build. Building the PC is more fun than you would think, and may make you some money down the road.

[NASpurs]

Consoles.

For those closed minded, console only gamers hating on PC for the stereotypical reasons..don't worry, you'll be the proud owner of Steambox/PC sooner than later..

Steam just eclipsed 7 million concurrent users a week ago, up 1 million from last years record. On top of that they just leapfrogged the active Xbox Live user base with over 65 million users. Give Gabe Newell three years, he will be sitting atop the video game industry.

http://news.yahoo.com/head-steam-val...013013485.html
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/30/v...million-users/
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...current-users/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ste.../1100-6416507/

The writing is on the wall, might as well get on board and enjoy the future now, instead of staying close minded and settling for less. I look forward to gaming with you console faithful, I will embrace you with open arms.

500.00 and struggling to display 1080p
"PC gamers are geeks hunched over desks"
"I will never buy a PC because I want to use a wireless controller"

still butthurt over that "PC gamers are geeks hunched over desks

[Reck]

All bull aside Shadowflames, do you consider yourself a casual gamer, or a more "serious" ( ing xmas1997 ruined the word tbh) gamer?

If you had asked me that about 5 or so years ago I'd say hardcore gamer but these days I'm playing very little.

But I also dont considered myself a casual gamer. At this point I'm sort of a tweener. I can play certain games for half a day when I put myself up to and there are times where I go months without playing a game.

[DJR210]

go to line when they have zero comeback.
posting irrelevant stats no one cares about
posting an essay and countless references no one reads
try hards
nerdiest people in the gaming industry
looked upon as lonely, no lifer fat asses with nothing better to do


(Not directed at you or Cry)

Nobody cares about the stats huh? 7 million concurrent users and over 65 million people is a lot of in' people tbh. Like I said, give it some time. Once it becomes the "cool thing to have" you will have all of the typical bandwagon followers who can't think for themselves declaring themselves as "die hard PC gamers".

[ElNono]

I enjoy the discussion and the back and forth. Not forcing anyone to debate the issue, I make my comments and if no one responds to it, no worries about that, either. I typically respond to stuff like, "I like consoles better because you can play them on a big TV" or "consoles are better because you can use a controller" and that sort of thing.

I think you've made very clear what your preference is. IMO, what you need to understand is that if somebody replies "I rather play that on a console", it's not a dig, and they're not "wrong". It's their preference, and for them, it might be the superior choice, even if you seemingly don't understand why. It's actually a very similar situation when people discuss using iOS or Android.

They've made huge strides to the point where they're very, very easy to use, particularly if you're running a distribution service like Steam.

I've used Steam many times. It's not a console experience. That's why Valve is putting Steam in a console format, running on a tailored system that's unobtrusive. They apparently get it. We'll see the final product.

My point was that console games have had issues just like PC games, and the problems will likely be very generalized now that consoles are running x86.

This is another misunderstanding that I'm not sure where you picked up from. Because they run on the same architecture, it doesn't mean they're anything like PCs. They're a closed system, running an OS specifically tailored for that hardware architecture. On a regular PC you can't take shortcuts with the hardware because you have to support a plethora of configurations. There's no such thing in these closed systems. There's both benefits and drawbacks to it, but the idea that because they now use x86 hardware it's "closer" to a PC and conversely "away" from vintage console is, at the very least, misguided.

The original XBox also was x86, and they still shipped buggy games and you could still update them. That was still completely a console experience that had little to do with PCs.

[DJR210]

still butthurt over that "PC gamers are geeks hunched over desks

Did you fools say that during our flame war too? Probably did, it's one of the better stereotypes out there tbh.

If you had asked me that about 5 or so years ago I'd say hardcore gamer but these days I'm playing very little.

But I also dont considered myself a casual gamer. At this point I'm sort of a tweener. I can play certain games for half a day when I put myself up to and there are times where I go months without playing a game.

I would assume then if you weren't consumed with adult life, you would still be a hardcore gamer, right? If so, why are you against PC gaming?

[Reck]

And that steambox looks pretty intriguing. I may give it a chance.

As far as looks it doesn't fair better than the trapbox but its definitely a step up from chaiming you to your computer. You can pretty much set the steambox as you would a console, only its not a console.

[NASpurs]

That's basically what is, NASpurs. Gabe Newell is taking the convenience of consoles, with the power and expandability of PC's. The Steambox is basically the moderately priced PC for those who simply refuse to buy the parts and build. Building the PC is more fun than you would think, and may make you some money down the road.

If Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft get on board, I'll jump as well. But in the meantime, why would I want this thing? Serious question. Plus there's a lot of hypocrisy in using a "Steambox" as your argument because you just said it's a console.

[NASpurs]

Shiiit, if they can figure out how to do cloud gaming like Gaikai, I would rather do that. I don't play much multiplayer so if there's a little input lag, I wouldn't mind.

[ElNono]

Valve making an actual console gotta have "hardcore PC gamer" mad, tbh...

[DJR210]

And that steambox looks pretty intriguing. I may give it a chance.

As far as looks it doesn't fair better than the trapbox but its definitely a step up from chaiming you to your computer. You can pretty much set the steambox as you would a console, only its not a console.

the Steambox tbh, you will get less bang for the buck. Convenience is never cheap.

Mini ITX has been available, it's a little bigger than a Wii..



You can fit a ing 780ti in that if you wanted to.

[ElNono]

Shiiit, if they can figure out how to do cloud gaming like Gaikai, I would rather do that. I don't play much multilayer so if there's a little input lag, I wouldn't mind.

"streaming" games are a scam, IMO... give me my own copy any day of the week...

[Reck]

Nobody cares about the stats huh? 7 million concurrent users and over 65 million people is a lot of in' people tbh. Like I said, give it some time. Once it becomes the "cool thing to have" you will have all of the typical bandwagon followers who can't think for themselves declaring themselves as "die hard PC gamers".

Nope. Doesn't matter to people who just wants to buy their consoles.

[NASpurs]

"streaming" games are a scam, IMO... give me my own copy any day of the week...

I used to say that about not physically owning any games when moving to digital and now I "own" digital copies of games, so if it's like a subscription service like Netflix, I would jump on board (assuming the internet tech is there).

[DJR210]

If Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft get on board, I'll jump as well. But in the meantime, why would I want this thing? Serious question. Plus there's a lot of hypocrisy in using a "Steambox" as your argument because you just said it's a console.

Nah, don't get it twisted. It's a PC at the end of the day. You get a case similar to a console in size and style, plus a dedicated controller (which I must admit looks like IMO) but you get to pick the components it ships with.

[Reck]

the Steambox tbh, you will get less bang for the buck. Convenience is never cheap.

Mini ITX has been available, it's a little bigger than a Wii..



You can fit a ing 780ti in that if you wanted to.

That's fine for someone who knows what they're doing. lol

For newbs like me with have to have set up. I have no idea how to set up a gaming rig. That goes over my head.

[DJR210]

That's fine for someone who knows what they're doing. lol

For newbs like me with have to have set up. I have no idea how to set up a gaming rig. That goes over my head.

I hear you, it's intimidating when you first browse parts and see a load of numbers, sockets, and names, but a couple tutorial vids later and it's not too bad. The parts in most cases will not allow you to install incorrectly because they only fit one way.

I've used Steam many times. It's not a console experience. That's why Valve is putting Steam in a console format, running on a tailored system that's unobtrusive. They apparently get it. We'll see the final product.

I can't imagine much different than Steam's Big Picture Mode, other than the supposed performance boost due to a less resource wasting OS.

I used to say that about not physically owning any games when moving to digital and now I "own" digital copies of games, so if it's like a subscription service like Netflix, I would jump on board (assuming the internet tech is there).

Steam regularly gives free trial weekends of the full copy of games, but no streaming. , browse the torrents online and try whatever you want, buy the games you truly enjoy. I haven't wasted any money on games in over a year, they've all been discounted or "borrowed".