Warriors: LOL Stephen "I Wanna Be Kobe" Curry

[DMC]

Friendly fire ... LOL

DMC, A player that takes volume shots is always a chucker?

There's a difference between a chucker and a volume shooter. Curry is a chucker because his shots are rarely in the flow of the game. He takes unwise shots. They cause long rebounds.

This is quoted from above. Read first, then ask questions. Even here you posted this and posted again after you read what I posted. Good job making such a conclusion without being familiar with the material.

[spurraider21]

seeing as how you just post box scores of when curry has a bad shooting night (on a high volume of shots) and add some comments like "lol chucker," your definition of chucker appears to be somebody that takes more shots than warranted (regardless of whether or not he is efficient with them). Considering MJ led the league in field goal attempts 9 times, certainly he would qualify as a chucker.

i'm legitimately confused as to why it has taken you 7 months to even consider addressing a yes or no question. you can argue semantics or grammar or other related bull , but we can all see through it

i have also recently asked you to list your top 5 point guards in the nba, which is taking you a startlingly long time to answer

[DMC]

seeing as how you just post box scores of when curry has a bad shooting night (on a high volume of shots) and add some comments like "lol chucker," your definition of chucker appears to be somebody that takes more shots than warranted (regardless of whether or not he is efficient with them). Considering MJ led the league in field goal attempts 9 times, certainly he would qualify as a chucker.

i'm legitimately confused as to why it has taken you 7 months to even consider addressing a yes or no question. you can argue semantics or grammar or other related bull , but we can all see through it

i have also recently asked you to list your top 5 point guards in the nba, which is taking you a startlingly long time to answer

I answered your question right away. You didn't respond to mine however.

I don't do lists.

[spurraider21]

you never answered my question of whether or not michael jordan was a chucker

[DMC]

you never answered my question of whether or not michael jordan was a chucker

You didn't ask that question. You asked if I still believed it. Whatever came after that was based on a lie (you admitted it). Like I said, rephrase your question.

[spurraider21]

you are a clown. you refuse to answer a yes or no question for 7 months, and i never lied. i misused a word.

mistakenly asking if "you concede that MJ was a chucker" is not a lie. it is the misuse of a word.

[DMC]

you know what, i'll play along in your sad game. fine. i lied. i said concede when it wasn't the right word. i was grammatically off base.

now that the air has been cleared, let us proceed. was michael jordan a chucker, based on the very standards you have set?

you are a clown. you refuse to answer a yes or no question for 7 months, and i never lied. i misused a word.

mistakenly asking if "you concede that MJ was a chucker" is not a lie. it is the misuse of a word.

You lied again. You're compulsive.

[spurraider21]

go back and read the thread. the consensus is that this thread a joke, and your dancing around a simple question further demonstrates this. how anybody can read this dialogue and take you seriously is beyond me.

[DMC]

go back and read the thread. the consensus is that this thread a joke, and your dancing around a simple question further demonstrates this. how anybody can read this dialogue and take you seriously is beyond me.

I never seek consensus. Argumentum ad populum is a fallacious argument.

[spurraider21]

i specifically said "ill play along in your sad game" before i said any of that. immediately after i said "i misused the word concede."

the misuse of a world does not cons ute a lie, and you are a moron for implying such.

[spurraider21]

refusal to answer a simple question isn't exactly a strong argumentative tactic either

[DMC]

i specifically said "ill play along in your sad game" before i said any of that. immediately after i said "i misused the word concede."

the misuse of a world does not cons ute a lie, and you are a moron for implying such.

You admitted to being a liar then you denied it, now you're denying admitting to it. Your argument is based on a false premise, and I've cornered you and forced you to admit it.

[DMC]

refusal to answer a simple question isn't exactly a strong argumentative tactic either

It's proper to not address a red herring.

[spurraider21]

you are arguing semantics instead of basketball. you're like a more re ed version of chump dumper. all this dancing and dodging to avoid a question with a one word answer

[DMC]

you are arguing semantics instead of basketball. you're like a more re ed version of chump dumper. all this dancing and dodging to avoid a question with a one word answer

You've tried to lure me into playing your word association game and I just dragged you through several pages of trolling. You've not had anything close to resembling a decent basketball take in this thread, defending Curry from the onset.

I just thought I'd have a bit of fun with you. You're free to leave when you wish. Gather your things and clean yourself up.

[spurraider21]

if dodging an deflecting is your version of trolling, then mission accomplished, champ. if you are going to make a claim, and resort to trolling instead of defending your argument, you are a clown, as i have already said

[DMC]

[spurraider21]

[Rogue]

Curry wants to be Kobe and he's just made an au ious start by putting such heavy workload on his fragile ankle tbh, it's only a matter of time before he tears his Achilles imho.

[Killakobe81]

A PG always has a chance to score. He's bringing the ball up the floor 99% of the time. There's a difference between "opportunity to shoot" and "open look". Steph takes the opportunity to shoot, doesn't wait for an open look. He heaves up contested 28' shots before a single pass is made. Dude took 16 threes last night. MJ averaged less than 2 a game.

So the team is built around a chucker. That says Curry is a chucker. What's your problem then?

3's arent the only "chuck" shots. I get why Kobe is a chucker and maybe Steph is too. I just think the term is thrown around loosely on here. And is unfair, if that is what the team is tasked that player with doing regardless of position. Basketball is about baskets and stops in it's simplest form. Steph is one of the best at making shots in recent memory. ESPECIALLY to the stat nerds who prefer FT's and 3 pointers above all else. If you only check a box score and let's say Draymond Green shot 5-7 from the field and 1-2 from 3 point land. One could argue that he should get more shots since he shot a better % (using last the last Curry game as an example)...and Curry was off from "3". but if you watch the game or see Curry and Green play ... unless it's a dunk or open layup when would you prefer Green shoot over curry? Any moron can see that steph is an amazing shooter and player Green though a hard worker and great defender, is not. curry should ALMOST always shoot way more than Green and if Curry chucks a few shots and takes them from green, who cares? Now if Bougut has an advantage in the post and Curry chucks contested fadeaway shots over two people (Kobe's bad shots) then the chucker label would apply. That is all I am saying here.

[Killakobe81]

A chucker to me is determined by the number of bad, forced shots taken not the # of FGA's. AI was a chucker for forcing shots. no one had issues when he takes/took quality shots.

[AchillesHeel]

A chucker to me is determined by the numebr of bad, forced shots taken not the # of FGA's. AI was a chucker for forcing shots. no one had issues when he takes/took quality shots.

This, you're not a chucker if you get 18-20 shots a game when they're within the offense and you don't stop the ball movement, Lebron is a great example of that. Chucker is when you're Kirby/Melo, who forces contested shots from 20-25 ft out, missing at least 60% of those shots.

[Killakobe81]

This, you're not a chucker if you get 18-20 shots a game when they're within the offense and you don't stop the ball movement, Lebron is a great example of that. Chucker is when you're Kirby/Melo, who forces contested shots from 20-25 ft out, missing at least 60% of those shots.

I dont get the group upstairs that gets on Tony when he plays "hero ball". Spurs always run really great sets at least 80% of the time. He hardly takes contested 3's and most of his shots are 20 feet max or closer. if he feels the need to take over from time to time especially since he and Manu are the only creators that can make a play when the system breaks ...not sure why he gets hate from Spur fans. he needs the freedom to be able to do that and at his best he is (helping) winning games in the Finals vs. Lebron.

[DMC]

A few pages back I differentiated between a volume shooter and a chucker, so no new ground is being broken here. Curry's shots often don't come in the flow of the offense. I don't see how a 29' step back contested three could come in the flow of the offense.

Curry took 15 real 3s in his last game, 1 was a last second heave I won't count. That's a ton of 3 pt shots for one person to take. He ended up with 32 FGA in a non-OT game. As the PG, that's playing hero ball and having 4 other people basically standing around watching. That has an effect on how they play defense, even if it's just a slight dropoff.

[Killakobe81]

A few pages back I differentiated between a volume shooter and a chucker, so no new ground is being broken here. Curry's shots often don't come in the flow of the offense. I don't see how a 29' step back contested three could come in the flow of the offense.

Curry took 15 real 3s in his last game, 1 was a last second heave I won't count. That's a ton of 3 pt shots for one person to take. He ended up with 32 FGA in a non-OT game. As the PG, that's playing hero ball and having 4 other people basically standing around watching. That has an effect on how they play defense, even if it's just a slight dropoff.

I agree that it can have an effect on some players. Especially if said player actually relies on touches to feel invested. But his coach has asked him to be more assertive. I would imagine at times his team-mates do as well.
Maybe he saw the team was flat, so he felt he needed to shoulder that load.

Im just saying because he is a PG that shoots a lot doesnt make him just a "chucker". I admit freely I doi not watch that "game" so Im just speaking in general terms.
DMC, did you watch the game he took 15 3 pointers? Honestly?