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Why not go again??
have you been?
I'm with you. He should do it again, and again, and again . . .
What branch and division were you Clan? How long did you serve?
Nope, I have no desire to.
You on the other hand claim too, so I ask why you are not currently there?
I was in for 4 1/2 years. Worked Intel, served everywhere from cali, to bosnia, to russia, to wales, germany, etc... it was great fun, but i got out, bc i never wanted to make it a career. i just wanted to join since i was a kid and that is what i did.
CIA Clan?I was in for 4 1/2 years. Worked Intel
nope, but i have worked with some of those guysCIA Clan?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/644641/u...-shut-it-down/The U.S. general who opened the Guantanamo detention camp said Thursday it was a mistake and should be shut down because "it validates every negative perception of the United States."
"In retrospect, the entire detention and interrogation strategy was wrong," Marine Major General Michael Lehnert wrote in a column published in the Detroit Free Press.
Lehnert, now retired from the military and living in Michigan, was the first commander of the task force that opened the detention camp in January 2002 at the Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base in Cuba.
He said the United States opened it "because we were legitimately angry and frightened" by the Sept. 11 hijacked plane attacks in 2001 and thought the captives sent there would provide "a treasure trove of information and intelligence."
He quickly became convinced that most of them never should have been sent there because they had little intelligence value and there was insufficient evidence linking them to war crimes, he wrote.
"We squandered the goodwill of the world after we were attacked by our actions in Guantanamo, both in terms of detention and torture," Lehnert wrote. "Our decision to keep Guantanamo open has helped our enemies because it validates every negative perception of the United States."
But the Repugs absolutely block Obama from shutting down gitmo, and right-wingers then trash Obama as LIAR for failing to keep his promise to shut down gitmo.
You're deluded, boutons. Obama doesn't have the guts to close Gitmo and neither do the Dems. If they had, they'd have tried to close it in 2009, but the Dems were loudly against it.
Wittes on Gitmo related provsions in the NDAA: http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/12/t...on-guantanamo/
Dems in 2009 wanted to see the the logistics of closing and where the poor mofos would end up. Every Repug Senator voted against.
Since when did that stop those Dems from doing the whatever they wanted. Obamacare anyone?
Did all republican obstructionists force Obama to go around murdering people with drones non-stop?
what if you wanna be "just friends" with gitmo?
ACA had all the Dems' support, while closing gitmo (without full logistics clarified) didn't.
really simple, at least for us smart ones who have mastered vote-counting arithmetic.
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Winehole at work
Seriously, do you always scour the bowels of the political forum?
Why does he use the search function and bump topics to give recent posts more context?''
Certainly not for you.
I like to look for (and read through) relevant past threads when I have something to post -- believe it or not, very few topics here are brand new.
This week marks the one-year anniversary of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence’s adoption of a sweeping 6,300-page study detailing the CIA’s post-9/11 detention, rendition, torture and interrogation program. But the public has yet to see one word of it.
That’s because, even though it deals with some of the most important and contentious issues this country has grappled with in recent years, the entire report remains classified.
Here’s what we do know about the report:
First, it is almost certainly the most exhaustive, detailed investigation of the CIA torture program to date. The committee spent more than three years researching the program, including reviewing six million pages of do ents.
Second, according to senators who have seen it, the report includes a damning indictment and repudiation of the longstanding claims that torture and ill treatment led to accurate and actionable intelligence.
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said the report “confirms for me what I have always believed and insisted to be true – that the cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of prisoners is not only wrong in principle and a stain on our country’s conscience, but also an ineffective and unreliable means of gathering intelligence.”
A similar sentiment was expressed by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who heads the intelligence committee. Feinstein said she believes the report “will settle the debate once and for all over whether our nation should ever employ coercive interrogation techniques such as those detailed in this report.”
Furthermore, the report contradicts the notion that such techniques led to the finding of Osama bin Laden’s courier and instead suggests that “the CIA detainee who provided the most accurate information about the courier provided the information prior to being subjected to coercive interrogation techniques,” according to Sens. Feinstein, McCain, and Carl Levin (D-Mich.).
obama not closing gitmo...
lol
yep. still not closing Gitmo.
Congress still blocking (not approving, not funding) Obama from closing Gitmo.
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