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    And with that it becomes less and less affordable. I'm not rooting for it to fail, I just think it's a piece of and poorly designed. And what should "we" be doing to ensure the law works?
    from your perspective as health care/policy expert, what is your great (re)design for US health care system, and of course, starting from the ripoff kludgeocracy we have now?

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    lol, make the best of a ty law
    short of repeal, what's the alternative?

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    amazing, considering how TX Repug sociopaths have erected very high and long bureaucratic obstacles, eg, TX navigators, especially useful to poor and Hispanics, can't even work until 1 Jan 14, AFTER the 2014 coverage has started.

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    Obama wins the coveted boutons award for 2013

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4435389.html

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    Politifact is bull . Maddow had a segment on it where she thoroughly trashed it, showing its politi "facts" and then destroying everyone of them.

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    Must....defend....dear leader....

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    not defending Obama, but noting, as does the huffpo article, that politifact is known bull

    Repug/tea bagger talking point "Obama Lied" ain't gonna kill Obamacare, but it will probably keep Fox watchers, right wing assholes, other bubbas/rednecks from getting Medicaid and health insurance.

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    Politifact is bull . Maddow had a segment on it where she thoroughly trashed it, showing its politi "facts" and then destroying everyone of them.
    Maddow is bull . Hannity had a segment on her where he thoroughly trashed her, showing her "facts" and then destroying everyone of them.

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    Maddow is bull . Hannity had a segment on her where he thoroughly trashed her, showing her "facts" and then destroying everyone of them.
    Does your wife let you watch Hannity on her tv?

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    Maddow is bull . Hannity had a segment on her where he thoroughly trashed her, showing her "facts" and then destroying everyone of them.
    link?

    Hannity? is why you are so horribly misinformed

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    Turning the Corner? In California, At Least, Obamacare Signups Zoom

    The statistics released yesterday from Covered California could bode well for health insurance exchanges that have their act together.

    Although the California exchange enrolled 109,000 in October and November combined, the tally from the first seven days in December — 49,708 — is nearly three times the pace from a month earlier. Even more people completed applications, the step prior to choosing a plan.


    “This has been a phenomenal experience as Californians have expressed in words and action their desire for affordable and quality health insurance coverage,” Covered California executive director Peter V. Lee said in a news release. “Enrollments and applications are surging, and we at Covered California — and our partners — are stepping up our game to meet the demand.”


    I talked to Lee last month after California outpaced enrollments on HealthCare.gov, the federal marketplace for 36 states, during the month of October. (To be sure, the current signups are still well below the exchange’s goals for 2014.)


    The news also has been positive out of New York. The New York State of Health exchange announced that, as of Monday, more than 69,500 people had signed up for private health plans through the state’s marketplace, according to Capital New York. That’s a big increase from a week earlier. As of Nov. 30, 45,000 people had selected a plan through the state’s exchange, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reported this week in its state-by-state tally.


    Donna Frescatore, executive director of New York State of Health, said in a statement: “We are very pleased to see these results, which show that tens of thousands of individuals and across the state are turning to nystateofhealth.ny.gov to access low-cost health insurance.”


    Even HealthCare.gov, the federal marketplace handling enrollment for 36 states, is seeing a surge. In three days last week, after the beleaguered website was fixed, enrollment topped 56,000,


    http://www.nationalmemo.com/turning-...-signups-zoom/


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    Turning the Corner? In California, At Least, Obamacare Signups Zoom

    The statistics released yesterday from Covered California could bode well for health insurance exchanges that have their act together.

    Although the California exchange enrolled 109,000 in October and November combined, the tally from the first seven days in December — 49,708 — is nearly three times the pace from a month earlier. Even more people completed applications, the step prior to choosing a plan.


    “This has been a phenomenal experience as Californians have expressed in words and action their desire for affordable and quality health insurance coverage,” Covered California executive director Peter V. Lee said in a news release. “Enrollments and applications are surging, and we at Covered California — and our partners — are stepping up our game to meet the demand.”


    I talked to Lee last month after California outpaced enrollments on HealthCare.gov, the federal marketplace for 36 states, during the month of October. (To be sure, the current signups are still well below the exchange’s goals for 2014.)


    The news also has been positive out of New York. The New York State of Health exchange announced that, as of Monday, more than 69,500 people had signed up for private health plans through the state’s marketplace, according to Capital New York. That’s a big increase from a week earlier. As of Nov. 30, 45,000 people had selected a plan through the state’s exchange, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reported this week in its state-by-state tally.


    Donna Frescatore, executive director of New York State of Health, said in a statement: “We are very pleased to see these results, which show that tens of thousands of individuals and across the state are turning to nystateofhealth.ny.gov to access low-cost health insurance.”


    Even HealthCare.gov, the federal marketplace handling enrollment for 36 states, is seeing a surge. In three days last week, after the beleaguered website was fixed, enrollment topped 56,000,


    http://www.nationalmemo.com/turning-...-signups-zoom/

    Bull ! Glenn Beck has debunked this false propaganda.

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    Maddow is bull . Hannity had a segment on her where he thoroughly trashed her, showing her "facts" and then destroying everyone of them.
    hannity and facts don't belong on the same page

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    hannity and facts don't belong on the same page
    first hannity..now beck? what does rush say ? lol

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    first hannity..now beck? what does rush say ? lol
    He's butthurt because buttons called politifact garbage and referenced Rachael Maddow. Instead of addressing the point, he starts flailing around throwing out made up bull from political hacks like Hannity and beck. Btw - both men's highest level of education is highschool whereas Maddow went to Stanford and was a Rhodes scholar.

    Bravo snakeboy. I'm surprised your wife lets you play on her computer.

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    He's butthurt because buttons called politifact garbage and referenced Rachael Maddow. Instead of addressing the point, he starts flailing around throwing out made up bull from political hacks like Hannity and beck. Btw - both men's highest level of education is highschool whereas Maddow went to Stanford and was a Rhodes scholar.

    Bravo snakeboy. I'm surprised your wife lets you play on her computer.
    Rushing in to defend the damsel Maddow . Very noble but seriously you should pick better damsels.

    This thread is full of flailing but it's not coming from me. The next year is gonna be very entertaining lol.

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    He's butthurt because buttons called politifact garbage and referenced Rachael Maddow. Instead of addressing the point, he starts flailing around throwing out made up bull from political hacks like Hannity and beck. Btw - both men's highest level of education is highschool whereas Maddow went to Stanford and was a Rhodes scholar.

    Bravo snakeboy. I'm surprised your wife lets you play on her computer.
    The logical fallacy aside, seeing as both Hannity and Beck are a million more times successful (and rich) than Madcow, that's not saying much for the value of a Ivy League education.

    All 3 of them are trolls but 2 of them are much better at it.

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    Rushing in to defend the damsel Maddow . Very noble but seriously you should pick better damsels.

    This thread is full of flailing but it's not coming from me. The next year is gonna be very entertaining lol.
    I'm not defending maddow as much as I am pointing out her intellectual chops as compared to the high-school educated rabble rousers with which you seem to want to equate her. And what's going to be so entertaining about next year? Please provide your sound Fox News driven analysis. This coming from the guy who thought Reid's nuclear detonation was intended to shift the focus away from ACA failures as opposed to filling the empty seats on the dc 9th circuit...
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    The logical fallacy aside, seeing as both Hannity and Beck are a million more times successful (and rich) than Madcow, that's not saying much for the value of a Ivy League education.

    All 3 of them are trolls but 2 of them are much better at it.
    Because there is a large market of morons that lap up beck and hannity says absolutely nothing about the accuracy anything. Speak to facts mr logical fallacy.

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    The logical fallacy aside, seeing as both Hannity and Beck are a million more times successful (and rich) than Madcow, that's not saying much for the value of a Ivy League education.

    All 3 of them are trolls but 2 of them are much better at it.
    False equivalence, but such fantasies are how you right-wingers roll.

    Fox, Limbaugh, and Beck know their job is above inflaming the willingly ignorant white/"Christian" simplistic bubbas of the Repug/tea bagger/gun-fellatin base with lies, propaganda.

    Financial success, audience rating are no measure of truth. They are measures of financial success, audience rating, period.

    That's like saying the financial success of misogynistic, gangsta rap drivel and black es twerking proves the drivel and twerking is music and dancing.

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    And what's going to be so entertaining about next year?
    Democrats will get back to their roots and lynch the black man. Should be quite funny to watch.

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    Rick Santorum: Government-Provided Health Care Is A Plot To Kill People Who Don’t Vote The Right Way

    Speaking at a Young Americans for Freedom event on Friday, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) offered an unusual assessment of what happens when “the government is going to be the principal provider of health care for the country.” “It’s actually a pretty clever system,” the former presidential candidate explained, “Take care of the people who can vote and people who can’t vote, get rid of them as quickly as possible by not giving them care so they can’t vote against you.”

    Yet Santorum’s own example refutes his claim that national health care allows an elected leader to essentially entrench themself by selectively murdering their opposition’s voters. Santorum presents no evidence that Thatcher — or for that matter, any other British Prime Minister — used her country’s National Health Service (NHS) to effectively euthanize people who could vote her out of office.

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013...l-people-vote/


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    Solving the Shortage in Primary Care Doctors

    But why, exactly, are doctors in such short supply?

    It turns out that the real bottleneck is at the post-med-school step: residencies, those supervised, intensive, hazing-like, on-the-job training programs that doctors are required to go through before they can practice on their own.




    There has been little growth in residency slots; they totaled 113,000 in 2011-12, from 96,000 a decade earlier. Exactly why residencies have not increased faster is a subject of great debate in the health care industry.

    Hospitals, doctors and med students usually give the same explanation: Congress is too stingy.


    After all Congress, through Medicare, subsidizes the vast majority of residency slots, at $10.1 billion annually, or an average of $112,642 per resident per year. Congress froze the number of subsidized positions in 1997, and hospitals argue that the best way to train more doctors is for Congress to open the spigot and fund more jobs.


    Obviously Washington is not keen on doling out more money for anything right now, especially not for Medicare. But there’s a bigger problem with that argument: It’s not clear that hospitals actually need taxpayer money to pay for more residents, because those residents might actually be turning a profit for those hospitals right now. It’s hard to know, though, because hospital accounting is so opaque.


    Residents definitely impose a lot of costs, besides the salaries they earn. Those salaries are fairly low — about $50,000 to $65,000 a year, just slightly more than hospital janitors on an hourly basis. The enormous number of hours they work — about 80 hours a week — is crucial in these calculations.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/business/solving-the-shortage-in-primary-care-doctors.html?from=mostemailed


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    The Real Reason Healthcare Insurance Companies Are Now Encouraging Obamacare Enrollment: Fear of a pro-public-option or pro-single-payer political juggernaut

    I’ve expected this for some time, and here it is: The Wall Street Journal reports that insurance companies are set to unleash hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising to entice potential customers on to the exchanges created by Obamacare. As the Journal puts it: Insurers … are capitalizing on an unprecedented opportunity in a shifting health-care market. Some seven million Americans are expected to buy health coverage on the new consumer exchanges, where people can compare insurance plans side by side. -

    I expect that the experience with Obamacare as sabotaged by Republican state legislators and governors and unremitting campaigns of disinformation, and by shortsighted insurance carriers engaged in their own campaign of deception and trickery toward their current premium holders, will make possible (in fact, likely) what was not possible when Obamacare was being drafted and negotiated.

    Employers would benefit from single-payer, if not from a public option, so they’re concerted scapegoating of Obamacare might serve their interest. But the insurance companies are drastically overplaying their hand.

    Once this epiphany occurs to the insurance industry, they might start reining in their members in order to give Obamacare some chance to succeed. By then, though, it may well be too late, and the previously impossible will be on its way to fruition. -

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