James Dolan is pretty much the Fredo Corleone of the Dolan family. The Knicks will probably never be good solely because of the tragic ownership that rids that miserable organization. He is also in the worst white guy blues band ever.
Why would Toronto take Felton and Metta? That adds $9 Million to their books. This smells like Knicks-generated garbage. The Raps are not buying a first five years down the line for that much money. Most likely it will end up being Felton and Shumpert and maybe a pick. Or the deal won't happen. Toronto has no incentive to take the Knicks' trash this far from the deadline.
Metta's contract has a player option so he wont be kept; around 3 millions
Fatton is around 3 million too
Lowry has a 6 million contract
So I guess Toronto will let Metta go and shed 3 millions in the process
But hey I could be way off
You are off, Lefty, but I never correct my homie Lefty.
pls feel free to tell me where i'm off
MWP only makes about 1.5M per year. Next year is a player option for MWP, so he could elect to opt out or TOR could just buy him out this year. The key is Felton. Lowry is off the books next year, so taking Felton on means taking 2 years, 6M total extra. So if you are considering them getting Felton + Metta, they are taking anywhere from 6-8M extra.
Typically, a late first rounder costs 3M to buy outright. TOR, in principle, would be paying 6-8M for that pick since neither player can be considered an asset to them.
I see, thanks
Lol I was way off
ing Rotoworld
why not just try getting lin back
Nah - you weren't that far off. You're Lefty. Even when you're off, you're on.
TBH I got Metta'S contract details from Rotoworld
Because Lin isn't someone thats likely on the block (at least not for what NY could offer). Plus, it would make NY look really stupid to trade for him and give up assets when they could have just re-signed him and people don't like to look dumb. More importantly, Lowry is a low end gamble because he is off the books next year so you have options (try to re-sign him if he fits, or let him walk if not). Lin has another year after this one on his contract.
TOR gets rid of Lowry because they are tanking and he's walking anyways, so netting any asset (as long as you don't take back too much salary unless it's an upside young player on a rookie deal) is a win. Rockets are trying to win and Lin helps.
Trading another future first round pick for a season rental, let alone getting raped by Ujiri once again is the bigger evil compared to trading for Lin. Lin offers more to the Knicks than lowry in the long run due to the same hype he got during linsanity and being familiar with the organization. This is of course assuming the Rox are willing to trade for Lin, which is likely so theyll have enough room to sign another star next season.
It's not really raped IMO. Giving up a lottery protected first rounder (which I'm assuming it will be) for 6-9M is really actually a good deal especially considering you are getting the better player who gives you a shot at making the playoffs (and more revenues).
They moved on from Lin already. Unless the Rox move both Lin & Asik for expiring contracts, they won't have anywhere close to enough money to sign a star. Plus, like I said, they are trying to win now and Lin helps that.
Don't see why the Lockets would want to trade Rin, the guarantee of their sustained popularity in the Asian market, even though his salary will jump all the way up to 14m something next season.
Lowry probably is the better all around player but imo Lin gives them a better chance of making the playoffs, hes a better team player than Lowry. Plus the Rockets are planning on trading Asik once theyre able to which is in about a week. So it only make sense for them to try trading Lin ASAP. Its not like its championship or bust for the rockets this season, they have Harden and Dwert signed up for the long haul, the better decision is try and make room to get that 3rd star player by moving Lin and Asik now rather than later.
I don't think they would have enough room for that "3rd" star even with Rin and Asik both off the book and nothing returned, just like DPG said. And it makes no sense for any other team to acquire Rin because the Asian Market is already a registered domain of the Rockets (guess that's why the Knicks refused to match Houston's offer to keep Rin, despite his amazing performances during that Rinsanity month). Rin is like a "quantum physics" book for a physics nerd (that the rockets are), which means he's of little value to anyone else imho.
It pretty much is championship or bust. They don't want to regress at all. Even though they are moving ASIK (which is more about it not being a good fit, which is not the case with Lin), they are likely not getting expiring contracts back. So moving Lin makes even less sense in that case because they don't clear enough cap space to sign a star.
Thanks for clarifying with Lefty on my behalf. I can't see this being the best deal Toronto can get at all. Not only do teams usually not go over a couple of million for a first, they also tend not to buy picks so far down the line. They could probably get a late first in THIS draft, which seems infinitely more valuable than taking on those contracts for a pick in a draft that's almost certainly going to be weaker.
Lockets are fooling themselves if they think they have a shot at the championships, not even an airball shot. they're just a paper tiger that will get immediately exposed come the playoffs, with 2nd round being their ceiling imho. They're just poor man's clippers tbh
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Per @HCanPelister, Raptors GM Masai Ujiri was in Turkey yesterday scouting the Nets' Bojan Bogdanovic, potential piece in Kyle Lowry trade.
Toronto has to get as bad as they can as soon as possible tbh... It's really hard to tank in the East with all these terrible teams...
Dolan needs to realize this is not the same situation as it was with Melo. The Knicks were fleeced then because they had great pieces and all the leverage. Now, they have crappy pieces and no leverage. Felton, Hardaway and Shumpert are a fair deal.
How do you get fleeced when you have all the leverage?
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