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Third-highest +/- on the team and the highest +/- per minute.
DUMB thread. DUMB OP
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give you credit man. sticking to your beliefs even though it's completely false and everyone is reading your posts responding with the same emoticon you continuously postManu s using +/- stat
It's Matt Bonner. It's what he does.Manu s using +/- stat
Maybe so.
Canadian intelligence, tbh.
This is just ridiculous tbh how the does he do this
That's why he won't get traded anytime soon. The numbers are there to back up the Red Mamba
He's getting traded for sure man, sure it's nice to have a stretch 4 and that's why they signed Thomas who is a better defender as well.That's why he won't get traded anytime soon. The numbers are there to back up the Red Mamba
Matt Bonner will never ever be traded, he will be an assistant next season though.
Matt Bonner = future head coach of the Spurs.
Hate him or hate him, he is incredibly efficient. Almost never turns the ball over and converts most of his 3's. He forces opposing bigs out and opens drive lanes. Defensively he defends the post very well.
Wrong about his D, if that was the case he'd get more minutes...
Historically he has been a very effective post defender. Post defense is a very specific skill. Diaw is a more versatile player on both sides of the ball. Duncan and Splitter are better defenders as well. It doesn't make him a horrible defender. He just has limitations on that side.
Historically the Spurs have gone to great lengths to keep him from being victimized in the post by limiting his minutes and his matchups, hence the good plus/minus numbers. Doesn't make him an effective post defender.
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There IS a reason Bonner always has solid +/- numbers. As cd021 mentioned, he forces opposing bigs out of the paint, which is extremely valuable when two of our main scoring threats are Parker/Duncan. Opposing teams are forced to stay on Bonner because he WILL make them pay if they don't (shooting +45% from 3 this year). While he might not be a great (or even good) defender, but he DOES have value to us, especially in certain matchups.
Don't get me wrong: I'm not advocating Bonner gets 20+ minutes like he did in 3-4 years ago. Diaw is definitely the better option as backup 4, especially given the way he's been playing this year. But I think those who think Bonner has no place getting any minutes at all are just being too tough on him. Do some of y'all seriously think Bonner just magically ends up with consistently solid +/- numbers for no real reason? They might make him seem a bit better than he actually his, but this point remains: the team (in particularly the offense) generally has success when he's on the court...provided he plays relatively limited minutes and is put in in the right situations.
Advanced stats say the exact opposite. He actually defends the post quite well. The thing is, there aren't very many post threats in the league nowadays. He does struggle against athletic front lines, though.
Trade lookn betta n betta tbh
this, soon he will be talking about here is a good player and deserves resign the contract
your point being?
There is obviously still a lot of hurt over the time period that Matt Bonner was a huge part of this Spurs rotation. Right now, Matt Bonner is perfectly suited for the situation that he's in. He's making about a million dollars less per year than Steve Novak, shoots a better percentage, plays much better defense, scores the same, rebounds better, has the "corporate knowledge", and plays one minute less per game @ ~12 minutes.
Some of you are extremely delusional to think that we will find these diamonds in the rough at ridiculously low salaries. Robinson has been gone for 11 years now and we still haven't found a great player to put next to Timmy. 11 years! We don't get high lottery picks, so they've been trying to find these guys overseas and wherever else they can. Matt Bonner is a great role player for 10 to 13 minutes a night and that probably won't change, so get over the hate. He's good at what he does.
On nba.com you can sort for opposing player's FG% within 5 feet of the basket. Among all NBA bigs who have defended at least 100 FGAs within 5 feet, here are the current stats:
1. Tiago Splitter: 48.5%
2. Roy Hibbert: 49.1%
3. Ed Davis: 49.2%
4. Matt Bonner: 49.2%
13. Tim Duncan: 52.0%
What opposing big does Matt guard? How do you guard a big by being a traffic cone? How many blocks a game does Matt record? How many steals?
We've seen Bonner get destroyed in situations where he's being asked to defend bigs. These numbers are a product of careful manipulation of player minutes and matchups.
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