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Yeah that sounds right. We have a solid 10 man rotation:
Parker/Mills
Green/Marco
Leonard/Manu
Duncan/Diaw
Splitter/Baynes
I know it's a bit reactionary, but Baynes has looked like a damn solid backup big these past couple of games...and even if you aren't sold on him, I have a hard time seeing the argument for why Ayres deserves more playing time. Baynes is much more likely to improve as he gets more playing time and helps out with a weakness we've had for a while: rebounding. Baynes is a great matchup for teams like Minnesota and Houston.
Bonner should see playing time in certain matchups. He's useful for drawing opposing bigs out of the paint, but as we all know, he leaves a lot to be desired in basically every area of the game aside from shooting spot-up 3s.
Ayres/CoJo/De Colo should only get in during garbage time.
Anyone disagree about the state of our bench?
Yeah that sounds right. We have a solid 10 man rotation:
Parker/Mills
Green/Marco
Leonard/Manu
Duncan/Diaw
Splitter/Baynes
I agree. I believe that Ayres is playing his way out of any role that he has on this team. However, it probably helps that our new assistant coach is from Indiana, too. Don't forget for a moment that Boylan has some sort of an impact on Ayers' minutes. It sucks, but I get a sort of coach's son kind of vibe with Ayres. I guess we will have to wait and see once Tiago comes back to find if Pop will alter the rotations a bit. Baynes certainly deserves some playing time. If he could play about 10 minutes against teams like the Timberwolves (Pekovic) and the Warriors (Bogut) once the postseason hits, I see him paying dividends for us.
Baynes is a decent player but Ayres is more athletic
No. Ayres can't even dunk the ball half the time.
I'll be upset if Splitter comes back and Baynes goes back to riding the bench all game. He's actually earned playing time. He looked poor early on in the season, but honestly I feel like he doesn't play as well when he's coming in during garbage time in situations that don't matter. He looks much better when he's just getting normal minutes. Meanwhile, Ayres has done practically everything possible to show he doesn't deserve playing time.
Baynes is sneakily athletic, and regardless, Ayres doesn't really put that athleticism to use. How many dunks has Ayres missed this year? Baynes is a better rebounder and much more of a presence in the paint (something that we need when Duncan/Splitter aren't on the court). Like I said, I'm having a hard time seeing why someone would rather Ayres get playing time over Baynes...especially this early on in the season. Why not give Baynes the chance to prove he's gotten better and can fill a legitimate role on the team? Not like losing a few games in December will be the end of us.
It really depends on matchup. Ayres is more suitable to guard quicker/athletic bigs (e.g. Griffin, Aldridge) but Baynes is perfect for Howard/Pekovic.
That bench rotation looks good enough to hold their own with a few teams starting line ups. Also if Thomas can hit that 3pt shot consistently and play defense, he would maybe threaten to take all of either Bonner or Ayres minutes.
Agree that Baynes is a good defender in the paint but it makes more sense to pair Duncan with Ayres. But I like Baynes/Diaw comb.
that. Duncan and Splitter with Bane and Diaw off the bench. Why the would you bench Splitter?
Easy guy. He didn't say that Ayres should play ahead of Splitter. He implied that Duncan/Ayres starting with Baynes/Diaw off the bench was the best rotation in Splitter's absence.
Marco should join the starting lineup, Danny Greem is awful.
I've honestly thought about this, but I feel like Manu/Marco have really good chemistry together. Also, Marco coming off the bench gives us a 2nd guy who can step up and play the 6th man role if Manu is having an off night.
One more thing: I feel like if Green got benched his confidence would be shot, and he seems like the player who can't play for when he loses confidence.
This made my day
But I see his point. Ayres can chase faster players especially when a switch happens.
Yeah, while he worded it poorly, the point remains: Baynes is much less effective out on the perimeter when he's having to switch and keep up with people (especially given his poor endurance). So I sort of agree that the Duncan/Baynes pairing probably wouldn't be too effective against teams with mobile bigs.This made my day
But I see his point. Ayres can chase faster players especially when a switch happens.
Exactly
Baynes is so beast. He's a little lighter on his feet that I thought he was too.
Play the man, Pop!
No matter how off Green is (offensively), he should remain in the lineup for three reasons:
1) he's still our best defender after Kwahi and can effectively guard Stephen Curry, James Harden, and other athletic/smaller PG's and SG's
2) We don't need anymore scoring in the starting lineup (Green just needs to defend and stretch the defense on offense)
3) If we replace Beli with Green, Green basically becomes useless because he cannot offensively spark the 2nd unit/bench like Beli can
It's quite premature to give Baynes a rotation spot after two good games against bad teams (Toronto and Utah). It should just earned him some minutes in the next few games to prove himself but nothing more.
What likely isn't premature is to end the Ayres experiment. He start to have played a lot of minutes and he still sucks. If I'm Pop, I would give his minutes to Baynes and Thomas to see what I have in them. If both suck and if Spurs can't do some kind of trades, there is still the Bonner option.
Ayers definitely looks more athletic when the standard dunk rattles out.
Baynes on the other hand just slams it home and theres no big rattle or big bounce off the inside of the ring.
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