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Daddy: 3 (Lakers)
MVPau: 2
- "Uh, check it, you know how I be - last week, Kobe couldn't do without me."
- Daddy
interesting perspective, before the media brainwashed a large majority of Laker fans.......
http://nypost.com/2002/06/07/kidd-sc...haq-over-mike/
LOS ANGELES – Jason Kidd and Byron Scott paid Shaquille O’Neal a compliment of historic proportions yesterday. Both Nets conceded they’d take Shaq over Michael Jordan with the first pick in the draft.
“When you talk about champions, the old saying is you take a big man first before a guard,” Kidd explained.
“Finding guys like Shaq, they come around once in a lifetime,” Scott added.
So dominant in throwing his 330 pounds around the purple paint in Game 1, O’Neal has turned Kobe Bryant into a role player. Shaq added to his growing legacy as possibly the most dominant player ever with 36 points, 16 rebounds and four blocks and hit enough free throws down the stretch to repel the Nets’ charge in their 99-94 victory Wednesday night.
The Shaq stigma on whether he shows up with his A-plus game evaporates when he gets to the Big Show. Shaq is averaging a career 34 points in Finals games – almost seven points higher than his regular-season career average. He always has believed his ’95 Magic were overconfident entering The Finals in 1995, leading to their being swept.
“When I was in Orlando, I got swept ” Shaq said yesterday. “I made a promise to me and my family if I ever got to the Finals, I’ll never let that happen again. I just have to let my presence known.”
Todd MacCulloch, Aaron Williams and rookie Jason Collins were singed, though the latter made Shaq work the hardest establishing position.
“In the league we play in, guys are so talented, no one player could stop another player,” Shaq said. “Guys now have so many counter moves. I have 75 moves on each block that I can go to at any time.”
Lakers reserve Mark Madsen, who guards Shaq in practice, said he threw out his back for a month the first time he faced him. Robert Horry suggested yesterday the only way to stop O’Neal is by changing the rules again and installing a two-second violation and widening the lane.
Kidd said the only hope of stopping Shaq is sabotaging the car he drives to the game. Shaq chose a silver Bentley to ride to Game 1.
“The best way to defeat him is try to figure out what car he’s going to drive and put sand or sugar in the gas tank,” Kidd said.
NBC’s Bill Walton believes the Nets have to “run nonstop”, especially with Shaq’s arthritic toes that could need summer surgery.
“Run him until his foot burns,” Walton said.
Walton still wouldn’t anoint Shaq as the best center ever, saying he’s top 5, listing Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Hakeem Olajuwon ahead of him.
“You never had any question about their self-motivation,” Walton said referring to all-time greats such as Jordan-Bird-Magic. “That’s the next step for Shaquille. He’s the guy who sets the tone.”
Asked if he would try to front Shaq and deny the entry pass, Walton said, “That is a huge problem. Kareem, [Kevin] McHale and Hakeem, the best low-post players I’ve ever played against, were nowhere as good at the lob as Shaq. I’ve never seen any player that big with that kind of skill on the lobs, his ability to spin and roll.”
Boiled down:::
Daddy: 3 (Lakers)
MVPau: 2
- "Uh, check it, you know how I be - last week, Kobe couldn't do without me."
- Daddy
You know I always call it like it is. Kobe was option #2 in the 3 peat teams. It's not his fault, the Lakers didn't invest in him, they invested in Shaq. But I do believe he was clearly the alpha in the 08-10 Lakers. Just watch the road games Gasol was in during the finals, he always played like a .
However, Kobe's ultimate downfall is he's always been an egomaniac and a ty teammate.
3+2 = 5
Lakers all-star bigs who carried Kobe :5
Though he did take Odom and Gasol to it. I mean they fought him tooth & nail, but, Kobe did take them kickin' & screamin' to back-to-back. & it was Artest who came to Kobe, hat in hand begging to help Kobe with Boston. Here's a guy who was on the edge of the abyss pleading for a job, an opportunity to avenge something he had no stake in. The walking embodiment of a loser (like Odom) (like Gasol). I don't have to tell you what happened. We all know the story, but, I will anyway:::Artest took a 9MM, put it to Paul "we ain't coming back to Los Angeles" Pierce's head and made him sorry his daddy ever squirted his ass out. Enabled Artest's brother that very night and on into the next morning to bellow around Staples:::"What does he have to do now! What does he have to do now! What does he have do now!"
You all thought he was gonna shoot that. tee, hee. Uh, uh.
Remember? Rasheed having to be carried from Staples, uniform on and all when he tried to storm the official's locker room. Matzel, matzel, good things.
Pretty obvious to people who watched any ball during that time. Mengke bateer had a job because of shaq. Scot pollard was sorted after because of shaq. No player gave otherwise crap players job because other teams were desperate quite like shaq did.
Kobe made himself the #1 option in the 2004 Finals and the team lost because of it. They just gifted a championship to a Detroit team that had no business winning one. That was Kobe's 6th. He chose individual attention over a ring and he got it. Enjoy, Lakers fans.
"That's the story of my life, buddy" -Shaq
And duncan had his 5th tbh,, it was right there, 1 lay up... and he lost it. Enjoy, Spur Fans.
I keep forgetting this moment. It's like we're overly indulged with 6 to the point where we forget about 7.
Don't worry, you'll be reminded of 0-4 all the time...
Todd McCullough, Kenyon Martin everybody.
Yeah, it's a simple rule of thumb: All else being equal, generally take a big over a wing or guard.
It turned out fine. We denied these humps here that 2nd Lottery pick. We preserved Pau's perfection without Kobe. And you ended up face ass down in Florida.
& yet, without MVPau, you'd be on the end of the 4>3 stickPERIOD
Well that Pistons team returned to the Finals the following year, and they almost beat us
So they were legit
They lost to us. They had no business beating 4 HOFers and a HOF coach. They probably wouldn't have if Kobe didn't rape and chuck his team out of it.
You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well.
Lol malone and gp were tosb
No it didn't. It ended up with your owner belly-dragging begging Dwight to #stay, and your franchise empty handed of both talent and future.
The fact that you did the chicken act and only come back wrapped around Lebron's nuts says a whole lot of how bitter you are of the Sweep.
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6
That Detroit team back then was legit though. They got two HOF bigs who were still in their primes, a court-maestro PG who made the conference finals 8 something seasons in a row (with different teams though), a cold-blooded shooter with clinical finish and a hardcore defensive young at SF, and a few solid role players coming off the bench. And the same Detroit team made the finals the right next year and gave the Spurs the toughest finals series they'd ever had until 2013, not to say the team would continue to make conference finals a couple of times thereafter.
Nice avatar, btw, your adolescent son selected it for you?
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