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    plus we get Melo as FA next season.....

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    Lakers call Knicks about Shumpert

    Perhaps weighing the situation rather than expecting to get deep into trade talks, the Los Angeles Lakers gave the Knicks a call to assess New York's interest in trading combo guard Iman Shumpert. The third-year pro would be an intriguing option for the Lakers to fill a hole at point guard. Currently, Kobe Bryant has been forced to run the Los Angeles offense.

    ESPN's Chris Broussard reported the Lakers' interest in Shumpert and also added Los Angeles would be willing to talk about a Pau Gasol for Tyson Chandler trade. While New York doesn't want to trade Chandler, it might have more interest if it could somehow convince Los Angeles to also take back guard J.R. Smith.
    The Lakers probably won't want to do that since Smith's contract would impede on their salary cap the next two seasons.

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    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    I think NY is honestly that dumb to trade Chandler for Gasol That's probably Dolan's way of stopping Melo to go to L.A. with Chandler's salary on the books.

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    I think NY is honestly that dumb to trade Chandler for Gasol That's probably Dolan's way of stopping Melo to go to L.A. with Chandler's salary on the books.
    Well, they aren't that dumb to do it straight up. The question is if Fredo is dumb enough to take on JR Smith.

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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    You had to make another thread for this? No reported trade in the works, just the Lakers calling NY about Chandler and Shumpert.

    I wonder if the Knicks are willing to take a chance on Nash though, they got a hard-on for aging PGs.

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    lets assume this scenario comes true

    with Kobe's 24 million, Chandler's 14.5 million, and Nash's 9 million, the Lakers are already at 45.5 million meaning they can't even afford melo at a max rate

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    Nash will be waived^

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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    lets assume this scenario comes true

    with Kobe's 24 million, Chandler's 14.5 million, and Nash's 9 million, the Lakers are already at 45.5 million meaning they can't even afford melo at a max rate
    It would make sense for the Lakers to also put Nash in that trade and take on JR, tbh.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    lets assume this scenario comes true

    with Kobe's 24 million, Chandler's 14.5 million, and Nash's 9 million, the Lakers are already at 45.5 million meaning they can't even afford melo at a max rate
    Nash will be waived^
    fine. lets assume they waive Nash with the stretch provision, meaning his cap hit is something like 3 million next year.

    You'd have:

    Kobe - 24 million
    Chandler - 14.5 million
    Nash - 3 million
    JR Smith - 6 million (smith is a requisite for the trade to occur)
    Shumpert - 2.6 million

    these 5 players bring us to a total of 50.1 million

    assuming the cap goes up to 62 or 63 million to be very generous, you have about 10 million to spend on Melo (cap holds on other roster spots)... and since he's opting out of 23 million, good luck with that.

    if nash is sent as part of the trade as AchillesHeel suggested, lets shave 3 mill of that total, so you have 47 mil spent on 4 roster spots. you can't afford melo anyway

    prematurely ejaculating gots

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    Good lord, at least try to hit the numbers right

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Good lord, at least try to hit the numbers right
    I did. melo isn't gna turn down a 23 million dollar player option to sign for 12 mil

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    got quiet in here

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    waiting for Caprisun to spin this one with "but, but, but the TWC contract!"

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    The numbers pretty much shows you this trade will NOT go down. There is 0 benefit in trading Gasol's expiring for Chandler especially at the expense of taking another ty mid level type hit in their cap. If they remove Nash, their team salary will drop to about $34.44 million, which would give them about $28.46 million in cap room (Harris was already waived) Additonally, the Lakers would also be eligible to utilize the Room Mid-Level exception for around $2.7 million.

    The players are in place. Kobe, Young (most likely picking his player option) and perhaps Farmar and Wes who will be cheap deals. Hill is a question mark, assuming no one overpays him then those are going to be on the roster. Same with Meeks.

    The cap is enough for either:

    Go all out with Melo or make a run for two Solid borderline All Star players/ solid startingl players. I think the Lakers will probably go hard after Monroe, without Gasol, assuming he leaves, they need a center piece and Greg is the biggest one available. I'm not sure if the Pistons will match considering they have to feed Drummond soon and with BJ and Smith under contract, I don't know if they'll offer Monroe big bucks, though CV and Stuckey will be off the books so there's a good chance they'll max him out. But Sefalosha, Lowry, Ariza, Varejao, Stuckey and Lance Stephenson to name a few could all sign with the Lakers. Understandably it's not looking like a team that will contend but it's good enough either way to make the Lakers decent once again.


    I thought any hopes of building a championship team was gone as soon as Kobe inked that $48 mil deal. That was the dagger. Now we just have to wait and see and frankly its exciting considering the Lakers are known to pull some franchise shifting moves for decades. Personally, I think they'll hit another home run soon. they'll get one marquee FA plus a solid player like the ones named above.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    at least hit the numbers right
    the numbers show this trade isn't happening

    got

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    Fitting comeback for someone who got exposed ^

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    Fitting comeback for someone who got exposed ^
    where did i get exposed?

    enlighten me

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    The numbers pretty much shows you this trade will NOT go down. There is 0 benefit in trading Gasol's expiring for Chandler especially at the expense of taking another ty mid level type hit in their cap. If they remove Nash, their team salary will drop to about $34.44 million, which would give them about $28.46 million in cap room (Harris was already waived) Additonally, the Lakers would also be eligible to utilize the Room Mid-Level exception for around $2.7 million.

    The players are in place. Kobe, Young (most likely picking his player option) and perhaps Farmar and Wes who will be cheap deals. Hill is a question mark, assuming no one overpays him then those are going to be on the roster. Same with Meeks.

    The cap is enough for either:

    Go all out with Melo or make a run for two Solid borderline All Star players/ solid startingl players. I think the Lakers will probably go hard after Monroe, without Gasol, assuming he leaves, they need a center piece and Greg is the biggest one available. I'm not sure if the Pistons will match considering they have to feed Drummond soon and with BJ and Smith under contract, I don't know if they'll offer Monroe big bucks, though CV and Stuckey will be off the books so there's a good chance they'll max him out. But Sefalosha, Lowry, Ariza, Varejao, Stuckey and Lance Stephenson to name a few could all sign with the Lakers. Understandably it's not looking like a team that will contend but it's good enough either way to make the Lakers decent once again.


    I thought any hopes of building a championship team was gone as soon as Kobe inked that $48 mil deal. That was the dagger. Now we just have to wait and see and frankly its exciting considering the Lakers are known to pull some franchise shifting moves for decades. Personally, I think they'll hit another home run soon. they'll get one marquee FA plus a solid player like the ones named above.
    Atleast show your real team in here which is LA obviously and stop hiding behind that my team SPURS crap......
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    The numbers pretty much shows you this trade will NOT go down. There is 0 benefit in trading Gasol's expiring for Chandler especially at the expense of taking another ty mid level type hit in their cap. If they remove Nash, their team salary will drop to about $34.44 million, which would give them about $28.46 million in cap room (Harris was already waived) Additonally, the Lakers would also be eligible to utilize the Room Mid-Level exception for around $2.7 million.

    The players are in place. Kobe, Young (most likely picking his player option) and perhaps Farmar and Wes who will be cheap deals. Hill is a question mark, assuming no one overpays him then those are going to be on the roster. Same with Meeks.

    The cap is enough for either:

    Go all out with Melo or make a run for two Solid borderline All Star players/ solid startingl players. I think the Lakers will probably go hard after Monroe, without Gasol, assuming he leaves, they need a center piece and Greg is the biggest one available. I'm not sure if the Pistons will match considering they have to feed Drummond soon and with BJ and Smith under contract, I don't know if they'll offer Monroe big bucks, though CV and Stuckey will be off the books so there's a good chance they'll max him out. But Sefalosha, Lowry, Ariza, Varejao, Stuckey and Lance Stephenson to name a few could all sign with the Lakers. Understandably it's not looking like a team that will contend but it's good enough either way to make the Lakers decent once again.


    I thought any hopes of building a championship team was gone as soon as Kobe inked that $48 mil deal. That was the dagger. Now we just have to wait and see and frankly its exciting considering the Lakers are known to pull some franchise shifting moves for decades. Personally, I think they'll hit another home run soon. they'll get one marquee FA plus a solid player like the ones named above.
    basically, what spursraider just said above...

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    If Daddy Tyson is involved, consider it, Fredo. Initial outlook:

    Beno (expiring, all of our PGs are hurt)
    Kobe
    Johnson
    Hill
    Daddy Tyson

    if Daddy checks out healthwise, they keep him beyond next season. He is easily the best anchor we've had since Shaq. Bench:

    Farmar
    Shump
    Swaggy P
    Williams
    Caveman

    Still likely 1st round fodder, but there are pieces to build upon for next season.

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    lets assume this scenario comes true

    with Kobe's 24 million, Chandler's 14.5 million, and Nash's 9 million, the Lakers are already at 45.5 million meaning they can't even afford melo at a max rate
    That's not how the cap works. They wouldn't be able to afford Melo, however they can gets some role players. BTW the luxury tax doesn't apply to the Lakers tbh. Their cable deal alone will cover whatever they're owed to the league.

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    If Daddy Tyson is involved, consider it, Fredo. Initial outlook:

    Beno (expiring, all of our PGs are hurt)
    Kobe
    Johnson
    Hill
    Daddy Tyson

    if Daddy checks out healthwise, they keep him beyond next season. He is easily the best anchor we've had since Shaq. Bench:

    Farmar
    Shump
    Swaggy P
    Williams
    Caveman

    Still likely 1st round fodder, but there are pieces to build upon for next season.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    That's not how the cap works. They wouldn't be able to afford Melo, however they can gets some role players. BTW the luxury tax doesn't apply to the Lakers tbh. Their cable deal alone will cover whatever they're owed to the league.
    actually thats exactly how the cap works

    you can't just decide to go over the cap just cause and decide to pay luxury tax tbh. teams end up over the cap when they use bird rights to resign their own guys for more than they were originally making. example, lakers had kobe on peanuts on his rookie contract, then he got a huge payday. that put the lakers above the cap. they later drafted bynum, and rookie scale contract didnt hurt them. he then made north of 16 mil per year on his next contract. that put them further above the cap, etc. but you can't just sign free agents and pay luxury tax willy nilly.

    odom is another guy that the lakers gave a payraise to, and they essentially traded his contract for Nash's current contract (Odom for trade exception, trade exception for Nash). gasol also got a bit of a raise from the lakers. then of course kobe's 3 year 80 million extension followed by his recent 2 year plan have put them in permanent cap

    the time warner deal gets them like 100 mil a year, and their pockets are deeper than that. if it was just a matter of luxury tax, they would be able to throw the max and lebron and melo on top of kobe's contract

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    Are you saying MVPau is a better defensive anchor?

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    Are you saying MVPau is a better defensive anchor?
    Dwight Howard tbh

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