Lakers: Lakers record with/without Kobe Gravano..

[AchillesHeel]

2-4

[ambchang]

2-4

[Killakobe81]

You do support the tank, but be honest, you didn't support LA paying Kobe that crazy money and were worried Kobe would ruin the tank. You have said this before. Kobe was supposed to help win now and instead he made LA worse and got paid.

Meh. They are what 2-4 since his return? Even if he came back and you take away both PG's they still were gonna lose.
You cats act like Kobe coming back is the only factor. He did not win last night's game by himself or lose vs. by himself vs. aTL...even as ty as he played.
Again it's always a "team accomplishment" when convenient around here ...

The Lakers are not as bad as Harlem states, but they do suck.
Not many teams except Miami and a few others not even the Spurs could expect to go better than 2-3, 2-4 while losing all 3 PG's on the roster ...
And yes, Kobe is screwing up my tank job if he stayed away until XMAS with all of these injuries Lakers may lose all 6 games ...

[ambchang]

Meh. They are what 2-4 since his return? Even if he came back and you take away both PG's they still were gonna lose.
You cats act like Kobe coming back is the only factor. He did not win last night's game by himself or lose vs. by himself vs. aTL...even as ty as he played.
Again it's always a "team accomplishment" when convenient around here ...

The Lakers are not as bad as Harlem states, but they do suck.
Not many teams except Miami and a few others not even the Spurs could expect to go better than 2-3, 2-4 while losing all 3 PG's on the roster ...
And yes, Kobe is screwing up my tank job if he stayed away until XMAS with all of these injuries Lakers may lose all 6 games ...

So now that the Lakers are sucking, Kobe is not responsible for the wins and losses, all despite the fact that the Lakers were 10-9 w/o him and 2-4 with him.

[DAF86]

Lakers defense

Before Kobe: 102.8 opp ppg, 44.6%fg
With Kobe: 108.2 opp ppg, 48.1%fg

You're not going to beat anyone giving up 48.1% shooting. That is somehow Kobe's fault?

No, it's just a coincidence that the defense got worse when Kobe returned.

[DPG21920]

Lakers were winning with Blake/Farmar but no Kobe. Bring back Kobe, but lose Blake/Farmar and they can't win. Very interesting.

[spurraider21]

Lakers were winning with Blake/Farmar but no Kobe. Bring back Kobe, but lose Blake/Farmar and they can't win. Very interesting.

so if the Lakers trade Kobe for 2 mediocre bench point guards the Lakers will improve?

[ElNono]

11-9 without Vino, 2-4 with him... Numbers speak for themselves, tbh

[Reck]

Meh. They are what 2-4 since his return? Even if he came back and you take away both PG's they still were gonna lose.
You cats act like Kobe coming back is the only factor. He did not win last night's game by himself or lose vs. by himself vs. aTL...even as ty as he played.
Again it's always a "team accomplishment" when convenient around here ...

The Lakers are not as bad as Harlem states, but they do suck.
Not many teams except Miami and a few others not even the Spurs could expect to go better than 2-3, 2-4 while losing all 3 PG's on the roster ...
And yes, Kobe is screwing up my tank job if he stayed away until XMAS with all of these injuries Lakers may lose all 6 games ...

LOL

[AchillesHeel]

2-4

[Rogue]

Meh. They are what 2-4 since his return? Even if he came back and you take away both PG's they still were gonna lose.

[HarlemHeat37]

Not only 11-9, but also 7-2 in their last 9 without him, tbh..

[LakerHater]

[ElNono]

[HarlemHeat37]

Good to see Pau smiling again, tbh, first time I've seen him smile since 2010..