Lakers: Kobe Bryant has a fracture of the lateral tibial plateau in his left knee. Out 6 wks

[Venti Quattro]

[The Gemini Method]

[RsxPiimp]

Again, what awful logic. Am I wrong? Was LA not .500 without Kobe but Blake/Farmar? Then with Kobe, but no Blaker/Farmar they were below .500 and their defense plummeted. They were only "ranked" 11th because the West is stacked. How on Earth, with the same talent surrounding them, can Blake/Farmar play .500 level ball, but Kobe, with that same talent around him plays losing ball?

Dude, I respect you, unlike most trolls here that serves one purpose, you actually provide solid analysis, day in and out and I like that because it's refreshing on a site like this. But seriously, what you're inferring is the Lakers are better without Kobe when they're not.



Now if you want to tell me the Lakers are a team that executes their game plan better without him, I'll buy that. But, guess what? With or without him, the difference is negligible, because the amount of wins they rack in the W/L column are practically the same. The team has issues that go beyond Kobe Bryant's.

[LkrFan]

They need to void his extensionPERID

[Clipper Nation]

With or without him, the difference is negligible, because the amount of wins they rack in the W/L column are practically the same.

10 and 2 are the same now?

[DPG21920]

Dude, I respect you, unlike most trolls here that serves one purpose, you actually provide solid analysis, day in and out and I like that because it's refreshing on a site like this. But seriously, what you're inferring is the Lakers are better without Kobe when they're not.



Now if you want to tell me the Lakers are a team that executes their game plan better without him, I'll buy that. But, guess what? With or without him, the difference is negligible, because the amount of wins they rack in the W/L column are practically the same. The team has issues that go beyond Kobe Bryant's.

I already said that. I clarified that exact point. I prefaced my comments by saying with Kobe or without Kobe, they were not making the playoffs. However, Kobe did help with the tanking unintentionally. Kobe is too dominant of a personality and too much ego to adjust his game. Not only that, but his physical abilities (even before the injuries) have declined and it's extremely noticeable on the defensive end. What you seem to be confusing is "talent" with "better team". There is no doubt in my mind that the Lakers are more "talented" with Kobe than without. However, in the context of how he was playing coming off the injury the Lakers were no doubt a better team without him. Nearly everything (especially defensive metrics) prove this to be true.

The argument from Laker fan shouldn't be "but he was without Blake and Farmar", it should be that is was a relatively small sample size. Still, we can only go on what we see and what we saw was a Laker team that played better basketball without Kobe. Now, that "better basketball" didn't amount and wouldn't amount to jack squat in the West, but that isn't the point.

[RsxPiimp]

10 and 2 are the same now?

19 games vs 6 games? Seriously? You're dumber than I thought.

[Clipper Nation]

19 games vs 6 games? Seriously? You're dumber than I thought.

Boiled down:::

MVPau: 10-9

Kirby: 2-4

dat !

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

kobe is basically going through training camp. it's unfair to judge him off the limited time he has played tbh

[DPG21920]

kobe is basically going through training camp. it's unfair to judge him off the limited time he has played tbh

SMH at this. So now the 48M man, who is supposed to be a legend needs a training camp to out produce Steve Blake.

[Kool Bob Love]

[Kool Bob Love]

[NRHector]

Well at least the Aids man and the other dumbass culby won't show up in this forum for a while

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

SMH at this. So now the 48M man, who is supposed to be a legend needs a training camp to out produce Steve Blake.

did you not see how duncan and ginobili started out even after playing training camp?

i guess you had to have played compe ive basketball in your lifetime to understand.

[RsxPiimp]

I already said that. I clarified that exact point. I prefaced my comments by saying with Kobe or without Kobe, they were not making the playoffs. However, Kobe did help with the tanking unintentionally. Kobe is too dominant of a personality and too much ego to adjust his game. Not only that, but his physical abilities (even before the injuries) have declined and it's extremely noticeable on the defensive end. What you seem to be confusing is "talent" with "better team". There is no doubt in my mind that the Lakers are more "talented" with Kobe than without. However, in the context of how he was playing coming off the injury the Lakers were no doubt a better team without him. Nearly everything (especially defensive metrics) prove this to be true.

The argument from Laker fan shouldn't be "but he was without Blake and Farmar", it should be that is was a relatively small sample size. Still, we can only go on what we see and what we saw was a Laker team that played better basketball without Kobe. Now, that "better basketball" didn't amount and wouldn't amount to jack squat in the West, but that isn't the point.

Well we can agree that they are in fact a much more entertaining team without Kobe. I reckon the whole roster, system and the coach just doesn't fit a player that heavily relies on isolation scoring. But the Lakers are SOL tying $48 million of their fortune to that player.

[Splits]

Kobe earning a kool/capri $135k/min played this season. Nice investment.

[Michael Jordan.]

They need to void his extensionPERID

Nuh uh mofocker.you are gonna enjoy every bit of that sandwich

[LkrFan]

Nuh uh mofocker.you are gonna enjoy every bit of that sandwich

[Rogue]

Don't forget that dude urged DH to play through injuries at the beginning of last season, now it's time for him to say that to himself imho. Lakers made a fool of themselves by signing him an extension when the season wasn't half done yet. Now they're tied to mediocrity for years and to what will turn out to be the tiest ever contract of NBA history.

[Thebesteva]

Maybe I was referring to the post above me that has me quoted... the post that was also within a minute of my post...

Nice try tho original got

starting drama everywhere you go
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Uniting the message board with your tiness

[KaiRMD1]

[Kool Bob Love]

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[Killakobe81]

Yes. In short the losses are on Kobe. No matter what you say, even when Farmar went down and it was just Blake + Lakers Squad with no Kobe, they still played above 500 ball. Kobe came back and had the exact same squad that Blake/Farmar won with and couldn't get it done. How on Earth do you point to anything else?

Who cares if they lost their PG, they replaced Blake/Farmar with Kobe. If you give Kobe the same exact players that Blake/Farmar won with, why on Earth would you not expect Kobe to win at the same clip? It's just stupid.

No matter how much you want to throw darts and say random things like "you aren't above the random poster down here" it doesnt change the truth. Maybe it's you who aren't above the random ty poster down here because you logic is awful on this one. The only fact is that Kobe, with the same talent around him that Blake/Farmar had, played losing basketball. Who else has that impact? It's Kobe. Yes, it's on him. It's not his fault that Blake/Farmar got injured, but it is his fault that evidently he's not good enough to play at least 500 ball with the same supporting case that Farmar/Blake got it done with.

*drops mic*

Not sure which is more ty ...this take or the repeated drop the mic bull ...instead of drops Mic you should put Sucking my own ...
Let me get this straight different games with different team mates but you expect some type of magic from Kobe? The team is not good he is not in his prime so yes losing farmar and Blake matters ...Kobe is not a pg its not that hard but maybe for you it is

[DPG21920]

Again, that doesn't make sense.

How come Blake/Farmar can without Kobe with this Lakers team, but Kobe can't win without Blake/Farmar?