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imagine if we had traded Hero for some great draft picks.
I think you're going too far now with that "permanently" thing
imagine if we had traded Hero for some great draft picks.
never understood why this clown is still on the team after what he has done
imagine if we had traded Hero for some great draft picks.
spurs culture is nothing more than a lie, that only applies to certain individuals while everyone is dispensable...for basketball reasons players like udrih, jax, neal, brown that sort of is forgiveable, but off the field antics like sexting and with another players wife how can u turn a blind eye on that , and the unwanted attention negative news it attracted for the team that derail that season chances of compe ing...
tp is nothing but a overglorified clown given the green light to chuck coatriding duncan, his no better then the other chuckers in the league playin on teams to ty records, replace him with either or any of those type of pgs in the league the spurs would still be the same without him....i wished the spurs had a pass first mentality pg, the days of watchin udrih and brent barry passing everytime they touch the ball instead of going after there own stats, those days you guys remember we got 2 rings out of it....for the last 7 years what did we get? a fkn fake ass hero with a green fleshlight
is there a kent on the team who is always expose with the same tactics used against him to have the backup come in and bail his ass after being torched or held scoreless?, from day 1 till now, nothing new...
should be thankful for
coatriding duncan to les,
getting bailed by guys like claxton, udrih, barry during the championship runs...
yet tries to steal more credit of the wins then he actually deserves, very similar to curbs
just because you play for a elite team, doesnt mean ur an elite top5 player at ur position
tp is easily replaceable by any starting pg in the league and certain backup pgs...
would have the same result, they too will get the media hype they are top5 at their position...
Truth Bombs!
Truth Bombs!
TRUTH BOMBS !
how are you a fan of a team if you hate our best player? like how the do you watch a ing game in which a player you apparently despise, whom the entire organization lauds constantly as an elite player, plays about the most minutes? That can't be very fun.
This is the logic I don't understand at all on this website. You hate Manu Ginobili? How the are you a fan of the team if all you do during games is rip on him continuously. Lets say you hate Pop AND Manu. I'm struggling so much to comprehend the concept of claiming to be a fan and watching all the games while constantly nagging and hating on 2/4 of the combo that has been around for the last decade and continues to be around.
I can understand hating a role player, such as Jeff Ayres who has been less than we've expected, or simply being disappointed in a main cog but rooting for them to get back in a rhythm. But what the is the point of spending every waking second ing about one player who is here to stay and isn't going anywhere any time soon. Holy
Oh wow Manu had a bad finals? Even though he's been arguably the most entertaining player we've ever had and has given us his absolute everything for every second he's on the court? Welp time to complain about him for every second he is ever on a basketball court playing for the spurs, and when he plays well we'll just reference the time he played bad adn warn that it could happen again.
Oh and Tony Parker is shooting a lot of shots because he has become an elite player and because someone on the spurs needs to be a threat to score and create or else that perfect ball movement will be clogged? Better rag on him too even though Tim has credited our success the past couple seasons to Tony's elevation to superstar status.
This is a ing rant but it needs to be said to shut everyone the up.
Let's say Manu doesn't play the way he does which is sort of reckless and unpredictable. Though it does create a lot of stupid turnovers, if he didn't play that way you think Patty would get these open 3's? Manu's style single handedly dictates the entire second unit, as it is predicated on a lot of ball movement and spacing and Manu is the orchestrator of finding them with crazy, some times out of control looks.
When the games get really tight, let's say vs. OKC, and there are 2 minutes left in the game. Guess what, those wide open 3's and perfect ball movement just aren't happening anymore. That's where superstars start to matter, and that's were tougher off the dribble shots and hard, contested drives to the rim become necessary. Luckily for us, Tony Parker can play like the best player in the league on any given night and finish against great defense and occasionally put up 30+.
TDMVPDPOY actually suggested we would be the same ball clup with other starters and maybe some reserves. You mean to ing tell me we get within 28 seconds of a championship last year with jarret jack as our point guard? gtfo dumbass
TP is not our best player
spurswag
solid meltdown in this thread
whats wrong being a fan of a team and certain players of a team? just because ur favorite player is not a favorite for another fan, doesnt mean u have to agree with whatever he/she has to say
just because parker is given the green light to go 4down every possession doesnt mean his the best player on the team, i dont care if he scores at a high clip efficiency when he gives it up on the other end...
whats wrong with calling out players? if franchise players or any player cant be held accountable for their mistakes and being called out, then you going t o continue to accept the same mistakes every game by t he said certain player?
Parker is still head and shoulders above Patty Mills imho and it's not like you can insert anyone in his position and expect him to function as well as TP does. Parker is certainly a top3 PG in the league and he's more than three times the player Rondo is (as Timvp once pointed out, he wouldn't trade Parker even for 3 Rondos). TP is the engine of offense for this team and he'll still be that engine for another 2-3 years. Even with that said, Duncan is still the only indispensable player of this team imho. Dude may play like on the court sometimes but his influence on the team is so enormous that no one else could deliver tbh.
[QUOTE=SpurSwag;7020825] Oh wow Manu had a bad finals? Even though he's been arguably the most entertaining player we've ever had and has given us his absolute everything for every second he's on the court? Welp time to complain about him for every second he is ever on a basketball court playing for the spurs, and when he plays well we'll just reference the time he played bad adn warn that it could happen again. [quote]
thanks for turning a tp thread into a ginoboli thread, another clown trying to deny the truth by deflecting a truth bomb to someone else....
ginoboli already got his fair share of mistakes and has been the target of hard criticisms of his game, he is not immune to criticism just like the clown mention in this t hread, even duncan or any player on t he spurs is not immune...
yes we all pissed and laugh when a bench player gets called out, then how come the same cant be applied to the starters or any of the 3tosb+pop?
green light to chuck doesnt mean his elite player or best player on the team,
if his the best, explain the winning record the spurs continue to win games without him when his injured? but the same thing cant be said for him when either duncan or ginoboli is out injured?
1. why you bringing up manu and his erratic sportscenter plays cause you know thats what u going to get out of him, but he knows when to stop and start to defer to bench players on the court....u want to blame the 2nd unit, why dont you blame the starting unit where they allow a team put a lead on them only for pop to clear the bench and play from behind, on most nights 2nd unit will run down a lead to single digits...or just wave the white flag altogether
2. u bring up okc, how about i drop you a truthbomb to shut you up, where was parker against okc in 2012 series?, where was parker against the heat in the finals? dont play the injury card clown cause he had a game jordan game 5 and s it up in game 6 and 7 cause duncan and kawhi had monster games on their way t o stealing the FMVP...blames injury, but had no problem going 10 straight possessions without deferring to another player to score cause he felt it was his time to shine, u know like the fake ass hero he is, and we all know what happen to kevin costner character in the body guard...fake ass hero
if he was that good like you claim him to be, how come he keeps on gettin exploited by the same tactics used against him from day 1? how come he cant even beat a fkn scrub name mario chalmers?
3. so you going to replace the fake ass hero with selfish ballhog who is not even a pg, let alone starting or fit the criteria i was looking for...
i said certain players can replace parker, whether they lead the spurs is another question just like how parker has led the team in the last 7 seasons to what? jack ....those top seeds and deep runs in the playoffs was all duncans work, not the fake ass leader...you remove duncan and parker wont even sniff a playoff game with the rosters we had...tim duncan is the sole reason why the spurs are even compe ive in the first place
spurs wasted whatever was left in duncans tank last 7 years by handing over the keys to early,
3/4 of those last 7 seasons i felt if the spurs had a pass first mentality pg or parker defering more to duncan, duncan could still be posting up big numbers like prime duncan....you know some clowns would rather watch duncan goto work, then watchin a fake ass hero go 4down on every possession...
My problem isn't nagging on a player occasionally. It's when people only nag on that player and don't comment on anything else. It's as if the only thing you see watching a game is Parker chucking of Manu turning the ball over. You realize this is the team we are riding with for the foreseeable future right? So what is the point of constantly ing and tony in every single thread every single day if nothing is going to change because no one wants it to change because it actually isn't an issue? Notice how this issue of tony being a huge ball hog has never been mentioned once in real life. The internet is so ridiculous with over analyzing every last bit of everything that you'd swear Lebron and durant are the only 2 good players in the league because they have no flaws
News flash, if our players were perfect and made no mistakes, we'd be on a 10 peat right now
tbh, TDMVPDPOY has been denouncing the COP bias for a long time, even getting banned from upstairs for doing so.
Ive been doing it for a long time as well, but the French Legion wasn't taking me seriously, they thought I was just trolling
so called? so how do you explain bench scrubs winning a road game against a playoff caliber team?
solid take bro. Spurs has always been Duncan's team since 97 and the fact has never changed but it's not like Tony was holding this team back imho. Tammy began to need more and more help as his mileage increased and Tony has always been one of the solidest performers around him. I could see Tony turning into another Mo Williams type of player if he began his NBA career playing on the Bucks or some other team under a dumbass coach, but the young Frenchman was malleable and Pop forged him into a pivotal piece of this team imho.
The real ber that prevented team from winning another championship the past years since 07, in my humble opinion, was the absence of a hardcore defensive big alongside Tim. As Tim got older, he needed help at the defensive end more than ever but the Spurs failed to give him even someone of the prime Rasho's caliber. All the got him were either the tattered has-beens like Kurt Thomas and McDyess, or those young scrubs who had just stepped out of diapers. Diaw and Splitter are decent bigs but defense ain't the strength to neither of them, which leaves Duncan still being the only one guy to count on defensively. If the Spurs converted some expiring s into big daddy Tyson Chandler in 10' summer before Cuban did, it'd be fair to say the spurs would've won the 11' NBA MF'N le and would've probably won a few more
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