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    He punished Channing Frye a few times in the post when they went to him the other day. Makes me more optimistic for the playoffs if other teams go small like Miami with Mike Miller at the 4 last year.
    Good defensive players should be licking their chops when they see Steven Adams checking in. They shouldn't be getting manhandled by third string bigs.

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    Splitter is a below average overall offensive player, but he's one of the top 10 defensive big men in the NBA, tbh..

    Most bigs in today's league are flawed, tbh, you live with their strengths..

    The problem with Splitter is that it takes him a while to find his rhythm after returning from an injury, and exacerbating the issue this season is the ineffectiveness of the starting unit at generating efficient offense..Splitter's game is pick&roll, but it's difficult to space the floor when opposing defenses no longer respect Kawhi's outside shot, Green is struggling and Parker hasn't been nearly as effective as last year at penetrating, tbh..

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    Splitter was used to play offense in a different way he plays now. Sometimes he is open and nobody pass the ball to him. He isn't the most skiled post player, and the Spurs system does't help him.

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    The problem with Splitter is that it takes him a while to find his rhythm after returning from an injury, and exacerbating the issue this season is the ineffectiveness of the starting unit at generating efficient offense..Splitter's game is pick&roll, but it's difficult to space the floor when opposing defenses no longer respect Kawhi's outside shot, Green is struggling and Parker hasn't been nearly as effective as last year at penetrating, tbh..
    this.

    pop should consider replacing green with belinelli in the starting line up. leonard isn't aggressive enough right now, and green is struggling offensively. when you add in splitter, you have a starting line up with guys who are only good defensively. that's why the bench always has to dig them out of a hole. beli should be getting more minutes, that dude is on fire right now.

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    Tiago off court (24 min): OKC shot 59.5%, SA had 35.9 reb% (62 DReb%)
    Tiago on court (24 min): OKC shot 39.1%, SA had 50 reb% (83.3 Dreb%)

    Spurs D this season Splitter on bench: 102.1 DRtg.
    Spurs D this season Splitter on court: 89.1 DRtg.

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    Pop needs to stop letting teams force them into smallball when it isn't needed tbh.

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    Splitter has had major issues scoring since coming back from the calf injury. He's shooting 37% since he came back and is especially bad scoring with his junky post game, and I think it must be the calf because he had some nice games earlier in the year.

    And the leg problem was lingering, it bothered him before he missed the 5 games.

    Check his splits:

    OCT/NOV - 59.8 FG%
    DEC - 41.7 %

    That's huge; pick and rolls aside, he's just not hitting the shots he gets.

    Hopefully the leg issue won't linger and he'll return to normal.

    Benching him for long stretches as Pop does isn't good for the team if Splitter is healthy enough to play.

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    Tiago off court (24 min): OKC shot 59.5%, SA had 35.9 reb% (62 DReb%)
    Tiago on court (24 min): OKC shot 39.1%, SA had 50 reb% (83.3 Dreb%)

    Spurs D this season Splitter on bench: 102.1 DRtg.
    Spurs D this season Splitter on court: 89.1 DRtg.
    ^Pretty much the clearest evidence imaginable of Splitter's defensive impact.

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    Stop fapping on Splitter advanced Stats, he can't stay on the floor since he's so weak on offense, he can be taken out of a game at will by the opposite coach basically, he's not the answer, relying so much on him is more of a problem actually, see his advanced stats in the Finals...

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    Splitter's offense leads to bad defense because most of his shots or moves in the paint turn to turnovers and fast breaks in the other direction.

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    Nobody is expecting him to be the admiral, but is it much to ask him to finish more aggressively in the post or work with chip on his jumper? Meanwhile you have serge ibaka working on those shots as well as 3s. Nobody is asking him to be d rob but his improvements have made the thunder a much more difficult matchup
    Tiago had that jumpshot in Europe, but it was destroyed in his first year.

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    he is the last of the problems ... want to use it as a scapegoat so will hide the reality for those who do not want to understand the real problems

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    When you have an old fart with his stupid military mind as a coach imposing how you have to play instead of using your strenghts surely you will struggle. That's the COY system. It's Works with scrubs like Green and Neal, but not with everyone.

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    If you expected him to come in and replicate the twin towers era, you were expecting too much. Splitter isn't David Robinson. David Robinson is one of the top 25 players in the history of the NBA.

    However, splitter's defensive skillset has turned the spurs into a defensive powerhouse again — long after the defense-first mentality of the championship years had been abandoned and the spurs written off as contender. That alone makes him a key cog on the team
    he isn't even david robinson in 2003. that's an understatement. he's azz with decent defense. someone needs to tell him how big he is and that he should stop going up like a pussy under the rim.

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    Its a complete myth that Green is struggling offensively, yall are such sheep.

    Every good team we play, they take him out bc its very obvious by now that's the key to shutting down the Spurs offense.
    But he's doing normal Danny green things against every other team in those wins we have.

    Its not his fault that really good teams know how tobreak Pop's system.
    I'm do r sick of hearing talk about Danny Green struggling, its total BS

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    Splitter is very skilled offensively, he has problems with the fact that he gets the ball too close to the basket, so he can go to the rim without even putting the ball down, the consequence is that he jumps without momentum that's why he often gets blocked. More of a system problem than his actual flaw imho.

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    Splitter is very skilled offensively, he has problems with the fact that he gets the ball too close to the basket, so he can go to the rim without even putting the ball down, the consequence is that he jumps without momentum that's why he often gets blocked. More of a system problem than his actual flaw imho.

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    I think his skills are getting open, since he hasn't strengh or post move enough to face defenders. You can't throw him the ball as the last resource when the whole defense is set aound the paint. Simply like that.

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    Average rebounder
    Can't even post up a point guard and even get blocked by them
    Get blocked way too much on easy dunk/layup
    Can't make jumpshot

    Sure he is a great rim protector and above average pick'n'roll defender and he would be great for the Spurs if Duncan wasn't playing but instead he is useless because of small ball play and we are paying him 10M a year for 20 min per game.

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    The guy has had 4 years to learn post moves and simply can't do anything outside of a sweeping hook. The guy doesn't know how to spin off his opposite shoulder for a hook or an up and under. When you're big takes a power step and wants to lay it up rather than go hard that's also another problem. His offense is limited, his spacing offensively is horrible and is only effective in pick n roll situations sometimes. It is true that few big men in the league can average 15 and 7 consistently but Tiago gets those opportunities in pick n roll and put backs but doesn't take advantage of those opportunities. He gets intimidated easily and will pass or go for a weak finesse move that misses. Defensively our rebounding goes up because most of his counterparts are taking jump shots and not penetrating, that's smart basketball plus OKC is a jump shooting team, theyre not going to out physical anyone. So our defensive stats go up but what are the offensive stats with Tiago on the floor? With small lineups being the majority of the teams we potentially will be facing in the playoffs it means a lot of small ball lineups which means Tiago on the bench because he's a liability on offense.

    Danny green is garbage this year, hasn't learned anything new in his years as a pro, has no other offense beside jacking up a three. His defense is also hit or miss, we can't use the magic rock theory to defend Durants numbers. That is to say we can't say I have a magic rock that keeps tigers away, look around do you see any tigers? I guess the rock works. Just because Durant didn't torch us for 40 doesn't mean Danny Green is responsible for that, Durant is ecenomical and doesn't force shots, plus OKC feeds the hot hand something the spurs fail to do.

    There are adjustments that need to be made and they are glaring against the elite teams.

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    The Hero continually puts Tiago in awful positions tbh...

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    If you expected him to come in and replicate the twin towers era, you were expecting too much. Splitter isn't David Robinson. David Robinson is one of the top 25 players in the history of the NBA.

    However, splitter's defensive skillset has turned the spurs into a defensive powerhouse again — long after the defense-first mentality of the championship years had been abandoned and the spurs written off as contender. That alone makes him a key cog on the team
    juggity with the family size goods. I'm pretty disappointed waiting for tiago to turn that corner, but he's made great strides and has crucial defensive prowess. I recall late in the past 2 regular seasons he was able to shoulder the offensive load with big games, and he improved his FT shooting in one offseason to the point where it's a non-issue now, when before he was getting hack-a-splitter'd it was so bad.

    He's making slow and steady progress ever since he's been a Spur, and right now he is probably coasting/still getting into shape and rythmn/saving it in the tank for april, may and june.

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    juggity with the family size goods. I'm pretty disappointed waiting for tiago to turn that corner, but he's made great strides and has crucial defensive prowess. I recall late in the past 2 regular seasons he was able to shoulder the offensive load with big games, and he improved his FT shooting in one offseason to the point where it's a non-issue now, when before he was getting hack-a-splitter'd it was so bad.


    He's making slow and steady progress ever since he's been a Spur, and right now he is probably coasting/still getting into shape and rythmn/saving it in the tank for april, may and june.
    Offensively Tiago can't and shouldnt coast given how limited he is offensively. He has Tim Duncan at his disposal and yet has not developed any post moves outside of that god awful sweeping hook. No pivot step, no left hand hook, no strong move to the basket.

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    He's quite good with the P&R on offense. Tiago sets excellent picks, cuts quickly to the basket and is a good finisher. His other offensive skills are limited, though. It's up to Pop to use his skills correctly, but Pop has figured out that can get more efficient offensive production elsewhere.

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