Is it lack of Vision or just flat out hero balling?

[apalisoc_9]

I know TP is never going to be a great passer, he doesn't have the greatest of vision and we know that's fine considering the fact that we rely a lot on his scoring...But my blood boils when TP IGNORES kawhi when he calls for a post up against a smaller defender. We saw this in the playoffs last year and I still see the same this year....

What's his excuse for doing that?

[Mikeanaro]

Lack of court vision plus dude is selfish and we dont rely in his scoring he is the first having the ball so he runs offense and decides 90% of the time to score.
Has some personal issue and needs to be the next in charge to feed his ego even if it hurts the team.
Try to not pass it to Manu even if he is open for a nice 3 in fact he never looks to that corner so they cant play together because with tony in the mix manu is just a cheap role player.
And when he goes blind and ran out of ideas absorbs the ball 21 seconds or makes some stupid predictable drive which ends in a block or a brick.
So its both of them

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

people would take this thread seriously if kawhi played tonight or something. you just sound like you're bashing for no reason here.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Lack of court vision plus dude is selfish and we dont rely in his scoring he is the first having the ball so he runs offense and decides 90% of the time to score.
Has some personal issue and needs to be the next in charge to feed his ego even if it hurts the team.
Try to not pass it to Manu even if he is open for a nice 3 in fact he never looks to that corner so they cant play together because with tony in the mix manu is just a cheap role player.
And when he goes blind and ran out of ideas absorbs the ball 21 seconds or makes some stupid predictable drive which ends in a block or a brick.
So its both of them

That was borderline impossible to read

[DMC]

The Manu vs Tony crowd still at it.

You can call out Tony without needing to invoke Manu. At least in theory.

[Mikeanaro]

That was borderline impossible to read

It was? well try to read this...
PARKER SUCKS!

[Mikeanaro]

The Manu vs Tony crowd still at it.

You can call out Tony without needing to invoke Manu. At least in theory.

Of course, because without Manu or Duncan that french POS would have 0 championships.
It cant be compared to Duncan because he is like 7 foot, and Tony plays like a poor´s vietnamite man MJ.
So at least in theory, it is more logical Manu DOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[DMC]

Of course, because without Manu or Duncan that french POS would have 0 championships.
It cant be compared to Duncan because he is like 7 foot, and Tony plays like a poor´s vietnamite man MJ.
So at least in theory, it is more logical Manu DOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Where are you from, btw?

[TheGoldStandard]

It's passive teammates who don't take open shots when given the opportunity.

[james evans]

because for years when people were naming the top pgs in the league, they left him out because he was riding timmy's coattails(still is) so when he gets the chance to prove he's a top pg in the league, he tries to by scoring instead of making those around him better. as i've said before, when duncan retires, we are gonna see exactly how good parker is if the spurs don't put anyone around him

[Mikeanaro]

Where are you from, btw?

I live in a third world country called Argentina, no, its not a Brazilian state.

[DMC]

I live in a third world country called Argentina, no, its not a Brazilian state.

So naturally you think Manu is being held back by Tony. Nationalism is ugly. Ironically neither of them are from the country where the NBA exists, so I don't know why you're fighting for table scraps. It's like saying the cog is more important than the shaft. They both must exist for either to matter.

[Skull-1]

Manu has always been held back by Tony. That's nothing new.

[PlayNando]

Manu has always been held back by Tony. That's nothing new.

?

[Brazil]

I live in a third world country called Argentina, no, its not a Brazilian state.

Choker

[mute]

what most people dont talk about is the hero ball iso one on one against lebron on the final play of the game haha. why did we run a pick and roll and run someone off a screen for a three or something

[Mikeanaro]

So naturally you think Manu is being held back by Tony. Nationalism is ugly. Ironically neither of them are from the country where the NBA exists, so I don't know why you're fighting for table scraps. It's like saying the cog is more important than the shaft. They both must exist for either to matter.

Lol, this is not about Nationalism, Parker was never at the same level as prime Manu, You are cheering the wrong dude if you think TPork right now is like 2005 Manu
Manu won in Europe, in the Olympics and the NBA, this is not Jordan needs Pippen please dont be confused.

[DMC]

Lol, this is not about Nationalism, Parker was never at the same level as prime Manu, You are cheering the wrong dude if you think TPork right now is like 2005 Manu
Manu won in Europe, in the Olympics and the NBA, this is not Jordan needs Pippen please dont be confused.

This is the present. At this moment, Tony is much more valuable to the Spurs than is Manu.

[Skull-1]

This is the present. At this moment, Tony is much more valuable to the Spurs than is Manu.

Yes, but Prime Manu, and by extension the team, suffered because of TP's ball hog mentality. It has been that way forever.

[Mikeanaro]

This is the present. At this moment, Tony is much more valuable to the Spurs than is Manu.

At this moment spurs won 2 games without Porker, he came back and everything went down, Manu and Duncan are old so now Porker flaws cant be hide anymore.
Valuable is ethereal, Tiago would bring championships so Kawhi, Pork did nothing since 2008 only his age makes him more valuable.

[DMC]

Yes, but Prime Manu, and by extension the team, suffered because of TP's ball hog mentality. It has been that way forever.

If getting 3 rings is suffering, there are plenty teams around the league who would like to take that suffering off your hands. Manu has probably cost us 2 rings from foolish or reckless plays. Being a ball hog is one thing, you cannot say for certain what would have happened otherwise, but fouling Dirk when you had the series in the bag was stupid, and the 8 turnovers in a Finals game is borderline re ed. I like Manu, but let's not start sucking his .

[Mikeanaro]

Yes, but Prime Manu, and by extension the team, suffered because of TP's ball hog mentality. It has been that way forever.

You are right, but Im sick of this Porker guy every time he talks he says Im gonna carry the team, that MF is not the team no one needs his hero ballin, and as time keeps going MF keeps doing the same, is he Popovich lover or what?

[Skull-1]

If getting 3 rings is suffering, there are plenty teams around the league who would like to take that suffering off your hands. Manu has probably cost us 2 rings from foolish or reckless plays. Being a ball hog is one thing, you cannot say for certain what would have happened otherwise, but fouling Dirk when you had the series in the bag was stupid, and the 8 turnovers in a Finals game is borderline re ed. I like Manu, but let's not start sucking his .

Just like we lost to Memphis when TP did stupid things like getting picked bringing the ball lazily up court? Or all those seasons we did NOT win because he would go mad ball hog and get trapped with no outlet. Manu is standing there wide open saying, "WTF?"

I find it hilarious to be accused of being a Manu homer, though. Lol

[Mikeanaro]

If getting 3 rings is suffering, there are plenty teams around the league who would like to take that suffering off your hands. Manu has probably cost us 2 rings from foolish or reckless plays. Being a ball hog is one thing, you cannot say for certain what would have happened otherwise, but fouling Dirk when you had the series in the bag was stupid, and the 8 turnovers in a Finals game is borderline re ed. I like Manu, but let's not start sucking his .

3 rings because Duncan and Manu were there, now when those 2 retire you will see the real Pork you dont get it right? chalmers has 2 rings too.
Porkey did 6/26 in game 6 so what was his excuse? the younger hero fallin was pathetic, and game 7 was a joke was missing in action.

[DMC]

3 rings because Duncan and Manu were there, now when those 2 retire you will see the real Pork you dont get it right? chalmers has 2 rings too.
Porkey did 6/26 in game 6 so what was his excuse? the younger hero fallin was pathetic, and game 7 was a joke was missing in action.

Chalmers doesn't have a Finals MVP. You're too emotionally invested in this debate because of nationalism. Deny all you like, but you're from Argentina. Of course you think Manu is slighted. Most of Argentina thinks so. They think he's Michael Jordan.