Let's face it . . .

[ElNono]

He said you THINK he is your friend. He is right. You write like you are his best bud. "I talked to Gino at the game and he said...."

You got pwned.

you can find quotes of me saying he's not my friend nor do I consider being a friend of his

Spartan needs to do a little homework before jumping in front of the semen, tbh

[benefactor]

what a couple of dumbasses

It's not that hard to figure out why Manu talks to/remembers ElNono at games and it has nothing to do with them being friends.

He's Argentine...he wears an Argie jersey every time he goes...and Manu probably only meets a handful of his countrymen at games every year. Unless you to gots think that there are thousands of Argies in Argie jerseys at every stop it's safe to assume he'd be pretty easy to spot/remember.

[Skull-1]

you can find quotes of me saying he's not my friend nor do I consider being a friend of his

Spartan needs to do a little homework before jumping in front of the semen, tbh

Says the guy who falsely claimed (without basis or research) that I didn't watch the game the other night. As if you could POSSIBLY know that either way. LMAO.


Says the guy who "talked to Gino" at every game and posts it in the forums as if it were fact instead of a deulsional fantasy. LMAO.

[Horse]

This team is no where near where it's going to be come playoff time. Pop has said he's taking it slow even if it cost them a few games. In both okc games they got hot and we missed shot we usually make. So until then go suck a !

[ElNono]

Says the guy who falsely claimed (without basis or research) that I didn't watch the game the other night. As if you could POSSIBLY know that either way. LMAO.

says the frontrunner that admits to not watching the games and rather walk the dog than watch the Spurs. You need me to quote you on that? It's readily available, tbh

Says the guy who "talked to Gino" at every game and posts it in the forums as if it were fact instead of a deulsional fantasy. LMAO.

What you want to believe or not about my posts is your problem, not mine, Spartan

[Skull-1]

says the frontrunner that admits to not watching the games and rather walk the dog than watch the Spurs. You need me to quote you on that? It's readily available, tbh



What you want to believe or not about my posts is your problem, not mine, Spartan

Quote it, . It proves my point you Manu pole sucker.

[ElNono]

I ask myself that a lot. Last season and Manu's bed wetting took a lot out of me as a fan. I have League Pass and have maybe watched three games all the way through this year. Used to look forward to game night. This year....not so much. We are gonna go through all the motions only to lose in the second round....

Even back when the Spurs couldn't make the playoffs I had more motivation to watch them than I do this year....

And to think my favorite player is the reason we lost with his ridiculous play in the Finals..... I don't know if I will even bother watching until the playoffs. I would rather walk my dog.

I ask myself that a lot. Last season and Manu's bed wetting took a lot out of me as a fan. I have League Pass and have maybe watched three games all the way through this year. Used to look forward to game night. This year....not so much. We are gonna go through all the motions only to lose in the second round....

Even back when the Spurs couldn't make the playoffs I had more motivation to watch them than I do this year....

And to think my favorite player is the reason we lost with his ridiculous play in the Finals..... I don't know if I will even bother watching until the playoffs. I would rather walk my dog.

I ask myself that a lot. Last season and Manu's bed wetting took a lot out of me as a fan. I have League Pass and have maybe watched three games all the way through this year. Used to look forward to game night. This year....not so much. We are gonna go through all the motions only to lose in the second round....

Even back when the Spurs couldn't make the playoffs I had more motivation to watch them than I do this year....

And to think my favorite player is the reason we lost with his ridiculous play in the Finals..... I don't know if I will even bother watching until the playoffs. I would rather walk my dog.

I ask myself that a lot. Last season and Manu's bed wetting took a lot out of me as a fan. I have League Pass and have maybe watched three games all the way through this year. Used to look forward to game night. This year....not so much. We are gonna go through all the motions only to lose in the second round....

Even back when the Spurs couldn't make the playoffs I had more motivation to watch them than I do this year....

And to think my favorite player is the reason we lost with his ridiculous play in the Finals..... I don't know if I will even bother watching until the playoffs. I would rather walk my dog.

I ask myself that a lot. Last season and Manu's bed wetting took a lot out of me as a fan. I have League Pass and have maybe watched three games all the way through this year. Used to look forward to game night. This year....not so much. We are gonna go through all the motions only to lose in the second round....

Even back when the Spurs couldn't make the playoffs I had more motivation to watch them than I do this year....

And to think my favorite player is the reason we lost with his ridiculous play in the Finals..... I don't know if I will even bother watching until the playoffs. I would rather walk my dog.

[TD 21]

I never called Gino my friend. You keep making up in your re ed head. You also apparently have plenty of time to come crying after every loss.



Calling me names isn't dodging the fact that you've still not put forth a cogent argument to take you seriously, nor why you're knee jerking after every loss.

Let's face it
Gutless worms

I never said you "called him your friend", I said you think he is and if you weren't too embarrassed to be honest, you'd admit it.

If you weren't such a delusional homer, you wouldn't have the slightest difficulty discerning why this team is almost assuredly doomed.

[ElNono]

I never said you "called him your friend", I said you think he is and if you weren't too embarrassed to be honest, you'd admit it.

If you weren't such a delusional homer, you wouldn't have the slightest difficulty discerning why this team is almost assuredly doomed.

that makes no sense. If I think he's my friend, why would I say he's not? Like I said, this is all in your head, not mine...

emo after another loss, reinforcing my point

[TD 21]

that makes no sense. If I think he's my friend, why would I say he's not? Like I said, this is all in your head, not mine...

emo after another loss, reinforcing my point

Again, reading comprehension.

Terming any critical point made about the team as "emo".

[ElNono]

Again, reading comprehension.

Terming any critical point made about the team as "emo".

I have no problem with well thought out criticism, and you're certainly en led to your opinion, tbh

I just find the doom and gloom at this point laughable, that is all.

[TD 21]

My criticism was well thought out. I was like you for a long time, always downplaying the Thunder, confident the Spurs could beat them in a series. But at this point, I'm not denying three years worth of evidence that suggests, as Zach Lowe likes to say, "they've got them figured out".

Let me flip your question around and ask you, why are you so confident that this is just a run of the mill slump/coasting? Wouldn't you concede that virtually everything broke just right last season? If so, take that out and why would this team's relatively recent track record in the playoffs give you confidence in them?

[ElNono]

My criticism was well thought out. I was like you for a long time, always downplaying the Thunder, confident the Spurs could beat them in a series. But at this point, I'm not denying three years worth of evidence that suggests, as Zach Lowe likes to say, "they've got them figured out".

All I asked for is a cogent argument. "you'll see" or "they've got them figured out" isn't a cogent argument.
Both the Spurs and especially the Thunder have changed during the past 3 seasons. Comparing how the Jefferson Spurs did against the Harden OKC has zero bearing right now. Even last season, the Spurs played OKC pretty well (pre Westbrook injury).

Let me flip your question around and ask you, why are you so confident that this is just a run of the mill slump/coasting? Wouldn't you concede that virtually everything broke just right last season? If so, take that out and why would this team's relatively recent track record in the playoffs give you confidence in them?

Strictly talking about the Spurs, we know this team's ceiling is higher than it is right now. They don't have to get there right now (and they might not reach the ceiling at all, time will tell). I thought some things aligned properly last season, but I also thought the team elevated their game. I never claimed they're the sure fire champs or that they'll even repeat as WCF champs, I've merely said they're a work in progress and they have time and room to get better.

[Johnny RIngo]

Oh, for god's sake. Please, spraining a hamstring in the middle of an every-other-day series of games is NOT the same as giving it three or four weeks rest before playing for a National Team.

It's not like he was lighting up the Heat before the injury. He was mediocre throughout the Finals. , Green was the frontrunner for Finals MVP after the first couple of games.

It is part of his contract that allows him to play for his national team. Last year his work with the FNT in the summer was cited as the reason he had matured into the leader of the Spurs team and leading the Spurs to the NBA finals.

Surely you understand the differences there, even if you don't want to admit it.

What benefits has FIBA served him this year? He basically admitted that he's tired after having no rest all summer:

"It's difficult physically and I know that this year I will have to bite the bullet. I haven't had rest during the 2011,2012 and 2013 summers. I know that in January and February, I will be exhausted. It's going to be tough."

He is clearly not as effective this year, and I don't know it he will get over it or not, but I DO know that your reasoning is flawed and your conclusions regarding his responsibility for the way last year's POs ended is false.

How the is it responsible to be playing off-season basketball weeks after gassing out in the Finals. The above quote mentions that he hasn't rested since the 2010 summer. It's selfish of him to ignore his responsibilities to the Spurs in favor of a mickey mouse tournament no one cares about(outside of a couple hundred Frenchmen). Now he's having one of his worst seasons in years and he has no one to blame for it beside himself.

Last season he was playing at an MVP level year and was an ALL-Star. This year he will likely not be an All-Star and not be considered as an MVP. But NONE of that detracts from what he did for the Spurs last year. Gutting it out in the games after the hamstring sprain is something that you have no right to question unless you have done superior work in an NBA finals series with such an injury yourself.

Totally makes sense for someone with a bad hamstring to be chucking that much in game 7. If he was really that hurt, he should have given more touches to players that were more efficient(Duncan/Leonard for example)

[TD 21]

All I asked for is a cogent argument. "you'll see" or "they've got them figured out" isn't a cogent argument.
Both the Spurs and especially the Thunder have changed during the past 3 seasons. Comparing how the Jefferson Spurs did against the Harden OKC has zero bearing right now. Even last season, the Spurs played OKC pretty well (pre Westbrook injury).



Strictly talking about the Spurs, we know this team's ceiling is higher than it is right now. They don't have to get there right now (and they might not reach the ceiling at all, time will tell). I thought some things aligned properly last season, but I also thought the team elevated their game. I never claimed they're the sure fire champs or that they'll even repeat as WCF champs, I've merely said they're a work in progress and they have time and room to get better.

Like I said, if you know the game, you'd know. Their length, athleticism and knowledge of the Spurs most basic sets disrupts the Spurs timing and rhythm on offense and makes them play more one on one than they're accustomed to; Duncan and Splitter almost always struggle against them; despite the fact that they're not a good outside shooting team they almost always shoot well from mid range and beyond against the Spurs; in general, the Spurs are rarely the ones controlling the game. In two of the three instances I can recall them doing so in recent years, they narrowly held on despite having significant leads and the third time they lost despite having a significant lead.


I don't think they elevated their game. I think they had almost everything align for them, from getting mostly healthy just in time for the playoffs, to the quality of the teams they played to the state of health those teams were in at the time, to the lack of experience those teams had at the stage of the playoffs they played them at. Because of this and their history from '07 prior, this has brainwashed much of the fan base into thinking everything's fine now.

[rascal]

in Nono bringing the heat!

Here come the homers to the rescue.

[rascal]

TD21
huge inferiority complex never fails to shine through

Here come the homers to the rescue.

[ElNono]

Like I said, if you know the game, you'd know. Their length, athleticism and knowledge of the Spurs most basic sets disrupts the Spurs timing and rhythm on offense and makes them play more one on one than they're accustomed to; Duncan and Splitter almost always struggle against them; despite the fact that they're not a good outside shooting team they almost always shoot well from mid range and beyond against the Spurs; in general, the Spurs are rarely the ones controlling the game. In two of the three instances I can recall them doing so in recent years, they narrowly held on despite having significant leads and the third time they lost despite having a significant lead.


I don't think they elevated their game. I think they had almost everything align for them, from getting mostly healthy just in time for the playoffs, to the quality of the teams they played to the state of health those teams were in at the time, to the lack of experience those teams had at the stage of the playoffs they played them at. Because of this and their history from '07 prior, this has brainwashed much of the fan base into thinking everything's fine now.

"If you know the game, you'd know" isn't a cogent argument. It's a statement that has zero value. As for the rest, all games had runs and been mostly close. They know our sets, we know their tendencies. The Thunder isn't the first team that play us toe to toe (that happened even on championship years with the Lakeshow or even Dallas). Again, the Spurs have done well against them and the team vs team record reflect that. It's clear playing against us brings the best out of them, and that can only mean they know we're the gateway to the West. To be that you have to be good, period.

[Skull-1]

I have no problem with well thought out criticism, and you're certainly en led to your opinion, tbh

I just find the doom and gloom at this point laughable, that is all.

Clown.

I ask myself that a lot. Last season and Manu's bed wetting took a lot out of me as a fan. I have League Pass and have maybe watched three games all the way through this year. Used to look forward to game night. This year....not so much.

So again, thanks for proving my point that you're a friggin' liar.

[TD 21]

"If you know the game, you'd know" isn't a cogent argument. It's a statement that has zero value.

That's funny, considering that about sums up virtually ever word I've even seen you utter.

[ElNono]

[Skull-1]

That's funny, considering that about sums up virtually ever word I've even seen you utter.

Along with, "I talked to Gino at the game tonight..."

[Skull-1]

Here come the homers to the rescue.

Rascal calling the shot! Boom!

[Arcadian]

(looks into thread)

...

8l

(slowly backs away, exits thread, locks it from outside)

[AFBlue]

Here come the homers to the rescue.

Rascal calling the shot! Boom!

Lol.

Tbqh, I've never read a Nono post that direct before. That's all I was commenting on fwiw. No dog in this fight, tbqh.