Kaeperpick isn't playing a good defense like Rodgers
I have to admit, I was shocked to see these head to head stats. Kaep goes toe to toe with him in the passing game and even beats him in most categories.
Wins
Kaep - 3
Rodgers - 0
Passing Yards
Kaep - 902
Rodgers - 767
Completion Percentage
Kaep - 60%
Rodgers - 62%
Passing Touchdowns
Kaep - 6
Rodgers - 6
Interceptions
Kaep - 2
Rodgers - 2
QB Rating
Kaep - 98.6
Rodgers - 97.3
Rushing Yards
Kaep - 301
Rodgers - 52
Rushing Touchdowns
Kaep - 2
Rodgers - 0
Packers were ranked #11 last year in defense and some of those stats are from that season.
regardless it's amazing to me that monkeyballism is putting those numbers up. bad defense or not.
At some point we have to be honest and put the responsibility on the guy who's eating up a large chunk of the salary cap that causes the defense to have short comings. Also, the money spent to give weapons to said QB. And, be honest and not point to that same defense that has a talent deficiency comparatively because of that contract. Not every team with a top end QB like N.O can field a top end defense like N.O. That's an anomaly tbh. If you're getting paid the big dollars, and you have those weapons at your disposal, it's on you, period.
Especially in a game where your defense only gives up 23 points. I bet if you ask a GB fan before the game if you'd live with SF only scoring 23, they'd take that in a heartbeat.
Isn't part of being an elite qb is figuring them out and getting around it to win them though? Are you saying no "elite" qb driven team would've beat the Niners tonight?
Rodgers and Kaepernick aren't playing against each other, that's not how it works..
The book on how to beat Green Bay has been out since the Giants eliminated them in their 15-1 season, tbh..Packer fans were afraid of the 9ers more than any other team, look at their forums..any team that is physically dominant on both sides will beat the Packers, while any team that looks to beat them in a battle in the air or in a dome will lose..
Green Bay had a minimal chance of beating San Fran/Seattle(I'd say Carolina, too, but they aren't a legit contender), tbh, they match up horribly with physical teams..
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And FYI, Green Bay has had 1 season in the Rodgers era where their D was elite(#1 in the league in 2010) and they won the SB that year..
Damn, thread killer in the first response.![]()
When comparing QBs, there is also offensive line to be considered. GP's offensive line last night was just pathetic (+ injuries).
That said: Kaep is top QB and 9ers win was well deserved.
that implication says nothing about who the better qb is, unless they decide to take less money like Brady.
Does it look like I'm trying to argue that point? Does it look like that's a significant part of the OP? I'm glad you think both answers are the same, as in, no![]()
damn, so rodgers has been getting outplayed head to head by a monkey brained chimp. say it aint so!!
the answer is yes if you say he has Rogers number and not the Packers..
this is every bit as stupid as people who put stock into Brady vs Manning head to head stats/wins.
neither player is ever on the field at the same time.
Rodgers layed the perfect floater jump ball out and GB receiver let ball bounce off his hands then helmet for the missed 50 yard gain and 1st and goal at the 5.
Hard to say rrrrrrrrauuugh Kaep was better.
On the game winning drive, the crucial 3rd and 8 with 1:10 remaining, while it was a great run by Kaep, it's fair to characterize it as just as big a screw up by #24 Green Bays failure to contain.
Just saying.
For the record i was pulling for 49ers.
You're switching topicsTalking about who is the better player has nothing to do with this thread. Now you're getting back in line with having Rodgers number and making it a more coherent argument.
And even if I did say he has his number, Rodgers is a member of GB is he not? So, you can't separate the two. You're trying to separate the head from the body, doesn't work that way. I've seen multiple people bang their head against the wall trying to get you to understand things. I will not fall victim to that tbh. I posted in another thread that Rodgers is the better QB, no question in my opinion. But with the responsibility that's on his shoulders he didn't do enough last game. Even Rodgers will tell you that. Take it from the mouth of the person you're defending tbh.
Rodgers took the massive contract at the expense of his team and consequently has to live with the consequences. Which means, more responsibility is on HIS shoulders. He should be out pacing Kap based on his responsibilities. He is not. And based on the ability of his defense due to the constraint Rodgers put on them talent wise, 23 points is good. , SF gave up 20 and they have a much better defense. And if I'm not mistaken, the GB defense is the only one of the two that forced and recovered a turnover this game. Just accept it.
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accept what exactly, it's not like you're saying anything i don't agree with.. but if he has his number, than why will he not make it once he gets paid?
I have no idea what that means. Why will he not make what?
GB wouldn't pay for a defense even if Rodgers was getting nothing. Their GM is cheap and hates free agency.
^^^What angry says is true--that and they were really missing a lot on D. If Matthews and Shields are involved for the whole game it might've gone the Packers' way. Also, Micah Hyde needs to make that pick in the 4th. The Panthers and 49er tilt may be extra boring but I'm guessing it is who'll choke the game away between Cam and Colin...
angrydude, what source for the figures do you have? The numbers I'm looking at say GB spent 118 million to SF's 115 million this season. But then another source says GB spent 104 to SF's 118.
Not having Clay Matthews is a big hit for sure. But the D playing that well despite those issues says a lot. 23 points isn't costing your team the game imo. But as far as that INT is concerned, that Rodgers fumble not being recovered by SF cancels that out, as well as other turnover opportunities. That INT drop by Hyde is more glaring because of the moment of the game imo.
Uhh no. Green Bay's defense is pretty bad and couldn't get off the field. Not to mention they were missing 3 or 4 key starters. If they make that pick in the 4th Packers take it.
It seemed this weekend was also the weekend of key losses in game that doomed teams. KC lost a handful of Pro Bowl talent in that game, GB lost its best corner, Philly had a few banged-up, and Cincinnatti had a hobbled Rey M. Pretty noticeable more for KC but still it pays to be healthy like SF and Indy has been of late. Sans Miller the FB for the 49ers which will be key for Gore's success.
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