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  1. #26
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    damn, nailed to the tree of Woj
    Nice ...play on words.

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    No love for Kobe on your list ? I'm baffled
    See, I'm trying to have a normal conversation, and you just keep badgering me about Kobe. It's unfortunate, really.

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    The NBA still revolves around Kobe Bryant, even when he's out

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    The NBA still revolves around Kobe Bryant, even when he's out
    These are the things that we know.

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    You have no idea UZER's Avatar
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    These are the things that we know.
    Thanks Hubie

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    See, I'm trying to have a normal conversation, and you just keep badgering me about Kobe. It's unfortunate, really.
    take my comment positively, I was surprised you didn't mention kobe within a list of cancers which shows that you can speak about other stuff

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    He'll also be dead before he's 40, thankfully
    Peer pressure

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    Good ol days when the Lakers can actually beat the Nuggets
    ^find the immigrant mistakes above...

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    take my comment positively, I was surprised you didn't mention kobe within a list of cancers which shows that you can speak about other stuff
    amb is actually a quality poster ... which makes his inane trolling more disappointing.
    The irony is he is the "Kobe" of the forum. A lot of talent, signs of greatness but there are those moments when he suc bs to baser instincts and instead of using that great talent and intellect for good ...would rather resort to antics that betray his own gifts. For amb, that is ignoring his keen basketball intellect to bash and troll, for Kobe it's ignoring his high hoops IQ to take hero shots a la JR smith whom Woj just went HAM on.

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    take my comment positively, I was surprised you didn't mention kobe within a list of cancers which shows that you can speak about other stuff
    I wouldn't call Kobe a cancer, very good basketball player with some self-imposed limitations.

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    amb is actually a quality poster ... which makes his inane trolling more disappointing.
    The irony is he is the "Kobe" of the forum. A lot of talent, signs of greatness but there are those moments when he suc bs to baser instincts and instead of using that great talent and intellect for good ...would rather resort to antics that betray his own gifts. For amb, that is ignoring his keen basketball intellect to bash and troll, for Kobe it's ignoring his high hoops IQ to take hero shots a la JR smith whom Woj just went HAM on.
    I guess if that is the case, you should be my biggest fan.

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    I guess if that is the case, you should be my biggest fan.
    I am ... when you are not trolling.
    For me pound for pound inch for inch you are up there with DPG ...I just dont see it enough.
    I have enjoyed my back and forth with you DPG, El, Baseline, Harlem, Mid and lately DMC the most since I have been there.
    Most have graduated from the Kobe thing ...except maybe DPG ...but he only dips "low" on occasion.
    You wallow in the muck constantly. But your talent much like Kobe's often makes up for it.

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    I wouldn't call Kobe a cancer, very good basketball player with some self-imposed limitations.
    Except nobody wants to play with him anymore and his new contract is screwing Lakers chance to compete for a long period of time... not sure why you wouldn't call him a cancer...

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    Except nobody wants to play with him anymore and his new contract is screwing Lakers chance to compete for a long period of time... not sure why you wouldn't call him a cancer...
    I think he was saying by and large that those players contributed more to losing than winning for the vast majority of their careers. While despite his flaws Kobe does help his teams win.
    Although I agree that by and large Kobe's contract makes little sense, we have not seen players that have not wanted to play with Kobe except the two biggest ones (shaq/Dwight). CP3 welcomed the trade to the Lakers before the veto for example. Maybe they just "put up with him" but to say no one wants to play with him is a bit of a exaggeration. In fact Pau, Odom and others have wanted desperately to stay ... I do think his leadership style is abrasive and given a choice MOst people would rather play with a quiet leader like Tim or a encouraging one like Lebron. It is why Fisher, Shaq fox and Odom have all played larger or equal to Leadership roles on Kobe led teams.

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    Hey Killa, forgot to answer this in the other thread, but I'm doing well. Kids are enjoying snow, hoping to make the next rank, etc etc. How bout you?

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    Hey Killa, forgot to answer this in the other thread, but I'm doing well. Kids are enjoying snow, hoping to make the next rank, etc etc. How bout you?
    Doing Ok switched companies (again) cant seem to find a permanent home but at least there is demand for my services ...but family is good.
    Glad to hear your military career is going well ...thank you again for your service to our country.
    Lottery should be interesting but if you guys get rondo back you may actually make the playoffs tbh ...
    How do you like stevens? I only have seen you guys play once so far.
    He was a fine college coach. Is he Rick Pitino part II or a truly great NBA coach? (potentially)

    Oh and props on the Red Sox ...

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    It was a lot of fun being a Sox fan here deep in the heart of Cardinals country. Got to go to Game 3 of the World Series, the last game the Sox lost this season... made up for not seeing the Bruins play the Hawks. And thanks for the props! Glad you managed to get a job at least in this economy.

    Stevens is saying all the right things. Hard to judge him with this group of mostly castoffs. I think he's done as well as can be expected. I was reading about this the other day, and Pitino agreed to coach the C's with the expectation that he was going to coach Timmy. When that didn't work, I think he became pissy and completely undermined his own chances. At least he gave us an awesome quote.

    As far as making the playoffs, Rondo might as well take his time. It's not like we're beating any top-tier teams, and we don't have a top 10 player, which you need to win a championship. I say tank and hope the lottery works out for us this time.

    It will be interesting once Rondo gets back. I think he's always chafed a little under the Big 3, so how he responds to being "The Guy" will tell me whether Ainge is going to trade him or not.

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    It was a lot of fun being a Sox fan here deep in the heart of Cardinals country. Got to go to Game 3 of the World Series, the last game the Sox lost this season... made up for not seeing the Bruins play the Hawks. And thanks for the props! Glad you managed to get a job at least in this economy.

    Stevens is saying all the right things. Hard to judge him with this group of mostly castoffs. I think he's done as well as can be expected. I was reading about this the other day, and Pitino agreed to coach the C's with the expectation that he was going to coach Timmy. When that didn't work, I think he became pissy and completely undermined his own chances. At least he gave us an awesome quote.

    As far as making the playoffs, Rondo might as well take his time. It's not like we're beating any top-tier teams, and we don't have a top 10 player, which you need to win a championship. I say tank and hope the lottery works out for us this time.

    It will be interesting once Rondo gets back. I think he's always chafed a little under the Big 3, so how he responds to being "The Guy" will tell me whether Ainge is going to trade him or not.
    Man if you guys got duncan with some smart moves Spurs are still at zero (pop too) and any hope of catching you at "17" would be tough. I dont know if Tim wins you guys the same "4" he has in SA , plus you subtract the "1" in 2008 but Im pretty sure if you had Pierce and timmy you at least win 2 or 3 if not more, les. You guys also gave up on Chauncey too soon and Mercer was a horrid pick. Just a reminder that the lottery does not solve all ..you need luck and to make sure you dont ignore warning signs (off the court troubles, entourage and knee injuries etc.)

    I bet that game was amazing despite the loss I hear it's a great venue for watching baseball.

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    Except nobody wants to play with him anymore and his new contract is screwing Lakers chance to compete for a long period of time... not sure why you wouldn't call him a cancer...
    At this point in his career, I would say Kobe is doing more harm than good to the Lakers from a winning perspective. However, over the course of his career, his contribution to winning for the Lakers organization was most definitely more positive than negative, especially during early in his career when he was focusing more on defense and picking his spots more on offense. It really wasn't until 2003 or so when he wanted to supplant Shaq that led to his poisonous at ude, but even then, his game made up for it.

    Compared to guys like JR Smith, Ricky Davis and JR Rider, Kobe is a saint.

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    I think he was saying by and large that those players contributed more to losing than winning for the vast majority of their careers. While despite his flaws Kobe does help his teams win.
    this is exactly why I think the coatailing, the better without kobe stuff is just trolling. Kobe being one or two during championship years is a forum bb discussion, at the end he had a key role on 5 les of the LA Lakers... history will tell later where dude ranks but he is having one of a career contributing vastly for 5 of the 16 Lakers rings.


    Although I agree that by and large Kobe's contract makes little sense, we have not seen players that have not wanted to play with Kobe except the two biggest ones (shaq/Dwight). CP3 welcomed the trade to the Lakers before the veto for example. Maybe they just "put up with him" but to say no one wants to play with him is a bit of a exaggeration. In fact Pau, Odom and others have wanted desperately to stay ... I do think his leadership style is abrasive and given a choice MOst people would rather play with a quiet leader like Tim or a encouraging one like Lebron. It is why Fisher, Shaq fox and Odom have all played larger or equal to Leadership roles on Kobe led teams.
    His contract is ed up, no way to spin dat even for hardcore kobe fans. The "I don't want to play with Kobe" started with Howard and is obviously exagerated by the sum of DH12 being a whinny little and Kobe wanting to show he is still the man...

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    Man if you guys got duncan with some smart moves Spurs are still at zero (pop too) and any hope of catching you at "17" would be tough. I dont know if Tim wins you guys the same "4" he has in SA , plus you subtract the "1" in 2008 but Im pretty sure if you had Pierce and timmy you at least win 2 or 3 if not more, les. You guys also gave up on Chauncey too soon and Mercer was a horrid pick. Just a reminder that the lottery does not solve all ..you need luck and to make sure you dont ignore warning signs (off the court troubles, entourage and knee injuries etc.)

    I bet that game was amazing despite the loss I hear it's a great venue for watching baseball.
    I am not sure Chauncey will be too successful in Boston. His game was perfectly used in Larry Brown's game plan, and he has largely proven to not be as effective in other systems.

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    "gang banger"

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    Damn, Woj went harder than Andre Bell's head through the front windshield.
    Came in here looking for a response like this, and got it. Thanks.


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    Sure Woj is a white supermacist disguised as a reporter, but he's pretty much on point here. Except one thing, 28 is young. JR still got time to at least extend his life expectancy from 45 to 50

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