Ken Berger of CBS is reporting Spurs aggressively looking to make trade

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

hyeah someone could get a hernia

[Spur|n|Austin]

Asik and Young to Spurs, Ayers, De Colo(Houston liked him before we drafted him) Matt Bonner to Rockets and Danny Green,Baynes and Joseph to the 76ers works through the trade machine and fills needs for all three teams. Maybe throw in next year's first also. Maybe get one of Casspi,Brewer,Garcia or Brooks from Houston .

Splitter/Asik
Duncan/Diaw
Leonard/Young
Belinilli/Manu
Parker/Mills

Stacked

Dat bench

[Mikeanaro]

Prince can't shoot.

26 mpg
6.5 ppg
41% FG
30%3PT
8.5 P.E.R.

$7.7 million this season and next season.

You are right, but we got old dudes before like Dice, Kurt Thomas who was pure , I still have some faith in Purple Rain but my first choice is Ariza.

[Sean Cagney]

You are right, but we got old dudes before like Dice, Kurt Thomas who was pure , I still have some faith in Purple Rain but my first choice is Ariza.

Were not getting Ariza.

[cd021]

You are right, but we got old dudes before like Dice, Kurt Thomas who was pure , I still have some faith in Purple Rain but my first choice is Ariza.

Ariza is basically the same price.

But much better production

33 mpg
14ppg
5.7 rpg
44%FG
40%3PT
16.3 P.E.R

$7.2 Million and this is his final season of his deal.

Washington is a tricky partner to trade with. They have 15 players on guaranteed deals and are $1.4 under a hard cap (teams who use the MLE can't spend more than $72 million). In other words, We can't package three players (ideally Bonner, De Colo and Joseph) for Ariza because he is making $7.2 while our players would add up to $6.4.

Washington would have to send 2 other players back. Their cheapest players are Harrington (884,000) Temple (884,000) and Glen Rice JR.(449,000) Adding Harrington and Rice would up it to about $8.4 million. Meaning we would have to throw Green in to make the salaries work over Joseph.

[Mikeanaro]

Were not getting Ariza.

But if they are aggressively pursuing upgrades (as the rumor says) I wanna think it´s about something nice, not scrub per scrub for example... we get Brandon Bass.

[Mikeanaro]

Ariza is basically the same price.

But much better production

33 mpg
14ppg
5.7 rpg
44%FG
40%3PT
16.3 P.E.R

$7.2 Million and this is his final season of his deal.

Washington is a tricky partner to trade with. They have 15 players on guaranteed deals and are $1.4 under a hard cap (teams who use the MLE can't spend more than $72 million). In other words, We can't package three players (ideally Bonner, De Colo and Joseph) for Ariza because he is making $7.2 while our players would add up to $6.4.

Washington would have to send 2 other players back. Their cheapest players are Harrington (884,000) Temple (884,000) and Glen Rice JR.(449,000) Adding Harrington and Rice would up it to about $8.4 million. Meaning we would have to throw Green in to make the salaries work over Joseph.

Throwing Green to the deal is a big gamble, if he at least gets hot in the first rounds he would be useful, Im not expecting him to be the same player than last season in the finals if we go that far again.

[Sean Cagney]

But if they are aggressively pursuing upgrades (as the rumor says) I wanna think it´s about something nice, not scrub per scrub for example... we get Brandon Bass.

What we want to think about what it really is as you know man is heresay on who they will get and who we talk about or want in here. I have not heard one concrete name yet to make me think this is not more than just a rumor. I never get excited on talks of Spurs trades, they usually turn out to be nothing.

[DMC]

Might want to update your playbook. The last old man talent they signed was Dice in 2009. Even Diaw was only 29 when he signed here.

Diaw has an old man game. You might want to update your basketball lingo encyclopedia.

[cjw]

Prince can't shoot.

26 mpg
6.5 ppg
41% FG
30%3PT
8.5 P.E.R.

$7.7 million this season and next season.

Agree. I'd WANT a pick for him and Bonner at this point given the obligation beyond this year. Almost a reverse of RJ-SJax, though the Grizz pick will be way better than the spot where the W's got Festus Ezili.

[Chinook]

Ariza is basically the same price.

But much better production

33 mpg
14ppg
5.7 rpg
44%FG
40%3PT
16.3 P.E.R

$7.2 Million and this is his final season of his deal.

Washington is a tricky partner to trade with. They have 15 players on guaranteed deals and are $1.4 under a hard cap (teams who use the MLE can't spend more than $72 million). In other words, We can't package three players (ideally Bonner, De Colo and Joseph) for Ariza because he is making $7.2 while our players would add up to $6.4.

Washington would have to send 2 other players back. Their cheapest players are Harrington (884,000) Temple (884,000) and Glen Rice JR.(449,000) Adding Harrington and Rice would up it to about $8.4 million. Meaning we would have to throw Green in to make the salaries work over Joseph.

No. Bonner and De Colo for Ariza and Temple would work. The Spurs can take back $8.2 Million in salary from shipping those two out. It's not hard to trade with Washington at all.

[cd021]

Agree. I'd WANT a pick for him and Bonner at this point given the obligation beyond this year. Almost a reverse of RJ-SJax, though the Grizz pick will be way better than the spot where the W's got Festus Ezili.

I hadn't thought about that. Acquiring him and receiving a pick because he has an extra season on his deal. That does make some sense. Bonner + De Colo+Joseph for Prince and 1st round pick (conditional) top 12 protected (maybe??) they'd save $7.7 million next season and could get under the cap by renouncing Davis and Koufous.

Even trading Randolph who is entering the final year of his deal ($16+ million) all told they could have $58 million dollars in committed salary next season as opposed to $73 million. (Both of those numbers include Randolph's contract staying in Memphis)

[cd021]

No. Bonner and De Colo for Ariza and Temple would work. The Spurs can take back $8.2 Million in salary from shipping those two out. It's not hard to trade with Washington at all.

I must have over thought it. I stand corrected.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

So now that Yahoo is reporting this, does that make it legit? I can't imagine a trade that drops jaws is in the works.

[Chinook]

And Memphis already owes one pick to Cleveland and I believe another to Minnesota. They have little in the way of sweeteners. If the Spurs want to take on salary for a pick, Gerald Wallace is probably the way to go. I'd hope for someone younger like Ilyasova, though.

[apalisoc_9]

Trade for Ersan...

[Prime Time]

because they would be interested?

Potentially, yes. Livio was one of the most intriguing prospects during last year's summit (Outplaying Wiggins and Schroeder mind you) and the last time teams acquired international players from the Spurs.. they turned out to become Goran Dragic, Luis Scola, Leandro Barbosa, etc.

Not saying Livio will be anything near those players is a guarantee nor is he good enough to spark a trade on his own. But I can't imagine Nando De Colo generating more offers than him.

[Chinook]

Trade for Ersan...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kxkke55

Wolters, Ilyasova and Middleton for Bonner, Baynes and De Colo.

But the Bucks probably want Neal as part of the package. If that's the case, Beli would have to be included for it to make sense. It can be done without him financially by including Ayres for Baynes and swapping Joseph for Neal -- http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kcl9g24 -- but that leaves the Spurs with only Wolters and Parker as legitimate ones and pretty much forces Neal to back up Parker again. So it'd have to be Beli, Bonner and Baynes for Ilyasova, Middleton and Neal-- http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ke9eleo .

The Morey in me would do that deal, since I think it would improve the club now and in the future. But I couldn't damn Beli to play in Milwaukee after he gave up money to come to the Spurs. Also, it's possible Ilyasova flops, leaving the Spurs with a bloated contract, a deep-bench combo-forward and a downgrade at the backup two.

[Robz4000]

I wouldn't do it tbh. Really don't think Ilyasova is as good of a fit as everyone seems to think, nor is he even that good to begin with.

[Chinook]

I wouldn't do it tbh. Really don't think Ilyasova is as good of a fit as everyone seems to think, nor is he even that good to begin with.

He was an elite floor-spacer who put up 17 and 10 per 36 on 45-percent shooting from range the last twp seasons prior to this one. He'd also be the youngest big on the team after Thomas. If he can recapture his old production in the Spurs system, his contract's a bargain. However, right now, it's an albatross. That should help the Spurs avoid having to give up assets for him. They may even get some for eating all that money.

[Robz4000]

He was an elite floor-spacer who put up 17 and 10 per 36 on 45-percent shooting from range the last twp seasons prior to this one. He'd also be the youngest big on the team after Thomas. If he can recapture his old production in the Spurs system, his contract's a bargain. However, right now, it's an albatross. That should help the Spurs avoid having to give up assets for him. They may even get some for eating all that money.

I think those numbers were more of a anomaly tbh. Since he started getting regular playing time they've gone to . He also wasn't very good in the playoffs last year iirc. There is the chance he could flourish in the Spurs' system, but it'd be too much of a risk considering how close the window is to being closed; not only are the Sours crippled with his contract in the short term, but they'd be ed long term as well.

tl;dr he's RJ 2.0 imo

[Johnny RIngo]

Potentially, yes. Livio was one of the most intriguing prospects during last year's summit (Outplaying Wiggins and Schroeder mind you) and the last time teams acquired international players from the Spurs.. they turned out to become Goran Dragic, Luis Scola, Leandro Barbosa, etc.

Not saying Livio will be anything near those players is a guarantee nor is he good enough to spark a trade on his own. But I can't imagine Nando De Colo generating more offers than him.

Don't know if Livio has much value at this point. He was renowned for his athleticism and he ended up tearing his ACL not longer after SA drafted him. Never a good sign. Thankfully it was a weak draft

[FireMicoHalili]

Greg Monroe and Gigi Datome for Kawhi + Ayres + Nando + pick. Monroe is slumping and Pistons fans want J Smoove at the four. Then we flip Tiago or Bonner + CoJo/Baynes for a small forward. JR Smith looks good on paper.

Or or not even on paper but whatever it'll look good in 2k anyway

[Robz4000]

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[will_spurs]

Anybody the Spurs trade for right now has to be a good defender, first and foremost.