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Waltz was very good, but I liked Leo better.
Waltz was better.
DiCaprio was good, but Waltz was ing brilliant.
Waltz was very good, but I liked Leo better.
It's the flashier performance of the two, to be sure.
Very subtle way he handled it though. The very small things (like how he loved to appear well traveled even though he never left Candieland - how he wanted to appear cultured, but didn't speak French or know the meaning of panache) are what made Leo's performance IMO.
Waltz was good, but not better than Leo.
Waltz stole the show in the first half with his comedy before Leo came into the picture, but then Leo took over the second half and had more memorable scenes. with the exception of maybe a couple of scenes, Waltz was virtually irrelevant in the second half of the movie once Leo hit the screen.
or how he gives that long rant about black's aren't capable of genius, yet Samuel Jackson is clearly the brains of the plantation.
Leo is an interesting actor. He is good, at times very good, but there is something about his face I can't stand, like a bratty kid. I'm pretty sure I was around him once when I was younger and he was not well known. But he has chops, I just don't know if he'll ever be as good as Pacino or DeNiro.
When he plays petulant brats he nails the role, like as Calvin Candie. He was very good in this film, I think he stole the film. Samuel Jackson did some of his best work as well. Practically everyone was great, however I think Foxx was the weakest link. He wasn't horrible, but definitely not as strong as everyone else.
Leo should have won for The Aviator. It's a shame he didn't get nominated for Django Unchained. But yes, Waltz was brilliant in the film so his nomination was well deserved.
I haven't kept up with nominations, but remember these awards are very political. Waltz was the easier choice since he's like the enlightened good guy in the movie, but DiCaprio was far more interesting. He played it perfectly and convincingly, like someone who looks down on blacks but can't survive or live without them.
And he was great in Aviator. going back to What's eating Gilbert Grape, Dicaprio has had some really good roles. I still don't know if he'll ever be in that DeNiro/Pacino category, but he's got time.
I would love to have seen Waltz get the Best Actor nom with Leo getting Supporting.
I finally watched this movie a few days ago, loved it, another Tarantino classic. But seriously, what was the point of Django going to Candieland other than to fill the white man with lead to the sound of Tupac in a total badass manner?
Unless i missed a plot point, i can't help but think the transaction could have been a lot smoother if Schultz went there solo and simply asked to buy Django's wife along with a fighter, even if he had to pay a steep price.
Last edited by Bynumite; 02-20-2013 at 06:22 AM.
It was perfect, lets leave it at that
Pulp Fiction and Dusk till Dawn was party good too.
Selmas fine ass made that movie............I would have tossed that, and then would have bit her ass right in front of all dem night crawlers.
any of ya'll rush to see 12 years a slave?
Saw it twice--Best movie of the year and Chiwetel Ejiofor and Lupita Nyong'o were brilliant in their roles. I don't think Lupita will win in a loaded Best Supportin Actress role, but Chiwetel should be the favorite for the Oscar. I recently caught Django and I think Leo was brilliant but Waltz was what kept me captivated. He did fade in the latter third of the movie, but he was instrumental in the first part of the movie.
chiwetel better win and n'yongo is a beatiful woman and great actress. in my opinion, 12 years a slave deserves wayyyy more hype than django.
Can't really compare the two--the simplistic idea is to do so since both are depicting the Slave crescendo and demise in our history. The way that 12 was written and carried out was ruthless and still kept you wanting to see Solomon and Patsy somehow survive. Michael Fassbender played that anti-hero that really made you reach and feel a sense of loathing for his character. The other one was a Tarantino. A good movie to watch and not have the depth of conscious pondering that 12 gave you.
chiwetel better win and n'yongo is a beatiful woman and great actress. in my opinion, 12 years a slave deserves wayyyy more hype than django.
I think Fassbender was far more villain than anti-hero.
Agree with the rest, though. Attempting to compare the two films is shortsighted.
why can't you compare the two? they are both rooted in slavery, only difference is one is a spaghetti-western fantasy and the other was authentic and honest.
Because the fact they both deal with slavery is the only point of comparison.
What you sideline as "only difference is..." is pretty much everything that makes these films: narrative, characterization, and tone.
Yeah and while we're at it let's compare Inglourious Basterds to The Thin Red Line! They're both WWII movies,so they're basically the same film!
stop it...lol
there are several articles and reviews comparing the two films. everybody was so stoked to see django and not a peep about 12 years a slave until just recently.
UTSA has a film school now?
The answer is in your reply and in CF's reply and in Mono's reply--Spaghetti Westerns were fabrication and fantasy and so, Django was a deviation from how it was and 12 years was a genuine look at the topic. Nonetheless, they were both good to great movies. I liked 12 Years a slave because I'm a history buff. I loved Waltz and DiCaprio in Django but I personally wouldn't compare the two or downplay either/or for what the other is trying to accomplish.
lol what? 12 years a slave has only been the most acclaimed movie of the year. Also, Django is a more mainstream film with maybe the biggest name director working, of course it had more hype. Steve McQueen is a great director but he doesn't have the star status of Tarantino, up to this point ppl knew McQueen more for showing Fassbender's than anything else. Again, the mainstreamers and simpletons will make the cheap comparison between the two, but it doesn't make it any less stupid to do so.
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