RJ was a good shooter, but he wasn't worth 15 mil or whatever. So yeah, you have to consider the contract, and thus the expectations coming in, to realize how big a disappointment he was. The guy was treated like our savior when he came in, like he was the tipping point or the last piece, the coveted Long Three that was going to make this team perennial contenders. But he just never fit in with our system. He's basically a volume scorer, like a poor man's Rudy Gay.
He "did" what he was supposed to do in San Antonio, oh and he was massively overpaid AND thought that just because he went to U of A that he didn't stink. Have seen enough of the after the game RJ in Portland to base my opinion on that. Note to RJ, Channing Frye also though you were a tool.
Offensively he was a great fit tbh. He's a 3 in Pop's system, all he really needs to do is hit threes..The problem with RJ was his poor defense when the spurs needed it the most..Part of a 3's job in pop's system is defending elite perimiteer players, but when the spurs signed his lateral movement was so slow that faster elite players can just blow up on him.
Offensively, you couldn't really ask more for him..He did his part. Defensively, it was the spurs fault for thinking RJ is more than just a mediocre defender.
Can't believe people are actually defending RJ.
The guy was a team cancer in a way that he just brought the energy down with his passiveness. Kawhi has trouble in the system too but he's always willing to step up. RJ always wanted to hide in the offense and look lazy. RJ made Diaw 1.0 look like a heroballer.
worst free agent signing in the history of the Spurs. Signing face took put the Spurs back 2 years. Eventually spurs recovered from that disgrace but it really took a toll and wasted at least 2 good years of the big 3
for the money he was commanding and thus diminishing Spurs chances to get better players, he was an abortion.
plus his at ude was lackadaisical, he didn't give a in the end. and his comments today prove it. HE DIDN"T GIVE A ABOUT WINNING, how people can brush that off is beyond me
Spurs gave him a horrible contract. Luckily GS took it off the books.
Hopefully Kawhi drops 25 on this scrub tonight
Tbh if he wasn't outrageously overpaid and was given minutes like Jax was during his time here...
...he still sucks.
If it wasn't for that stupid contract I'd still take Jefferson over Kiwi. 's shooting 45% from three this year and Kiwi can't hit his ass with a handful of wheat. His defense is the most overrated thing in the history of this board too.
No the spurs were lucky he agreed to redo the contract in the first place.
Some of it was on the Spurs organization. Acquiring him for Thomas, Bowen, Oberto to be the 4th option. $14 million for a forth option? They knew he need the ball to be effective a good score and not much else. Athleticism isn't nearly as important in our system. You're open, you shoot. He was a average shooter from behind the arc from most of his career and had to defer to Parker, and Manu on the wing.
To his credit he did return and work on his jumpshot. Showing drastic improvement, from behind the arc and fitting better in the system. He was simply overpaid and his history as a 20 ppg scorer and him playing with the Spurs from age 29-32. People expected too much because of his salary. If he played for $5 million and their would be less hatred against him.
We did get out of the deal with Jackson and had a great one to the WCF, our first WCF since 08.
Seems as though the best you can formulate is parroting others. Quite common for a guy like you just begging for acceptance. He might not have put up his most glamorous numbers or had his most productive years here but he was far from a scrub and pure trash. He failed to fit into the system, was overplayed but serviceable. Keep convincing yourself you know what you're talking about as long as you mimic a few others.
I do not know but I agree with you fully. I don't see how anyone can support or be a fan of this half assed player. He sucks.And you are an idiot too.......
Ask any GS fan last year or this year any Utah fan who they would take 10 times out of 10, you know the answer.
Can't really blame Jefferson for the Spurs acquiring a player that didn't have the tools to be the missing piece on the team, tbh..
I was happy with the RJ trade at the time, like most Spurs fans, but it was evident mid-way through the first season that he no longer had lateral quickness and that he would be just a spot-up shooter in the Spurs' system..
Last year's version of Leonard was clearly much superior to Jefferson as an overall player, and the Leonard we've seen since Splitter went out is the All-Star caliber player we expected in the off-season, tbh..
Not just that, the fellow shrinked in the big moments, was utterly useless beyond spot-up shooting, even that with a slow release and failing in the clutch. It didnt' cost the Spurs much by trading for him... but they really could have avoided that big contract.
15 points on 10 shots vs 15 points on 12 shots in more minutes. Like I said, Jefferson NOW with a cheap contract would be a better fit, the perfect fit. He's much more mature than he was when he was here and would fit the role perfectly. As in opposite of how he didn't fit in then.
I think the hate for way overpaying him is clouding judgments. His efficiency is off the charts.
Look he is not better than a 22 year old LEONARD, way higher ceiling as well so just stop it. You are using one night as to say who is a better player? I would not take him NOW with a cheap contract over Leonard, he is alot older and his ceiling was reached years ago. I would take Kawhi this year and most would and you know it. Fit the role perfectly? What shooting threes at around 40% and not much else? He can't defend worth a crap and never did here, can't slash at all! Hardly even dunked here! He camped out on the wing.
He did not fit in then so why would he now exactly? He made alot here yes but it's not clouding my judgement! He did not show up for the playoffs either and Kawhi has shown he can and has shown up even at his young age. He was not that good here, period end of story. I am sure GS fans will tell you the same.
Oh yeah They play about the same amount of minutes a game, Kawhi 2 more PPG on a more stacked team, 51% shooting to s 44% and 6 rebounds to s 4 a game, how is he that much more efficient? He is shooting threes better yes, what else? I fail to see your point.
---"Leonard, essentially a 2011 draft pick, has been playing for peanuts on a rookie scale contract — his career earnings will have totaled about $5.5 million by the end of the season. "
how does one get into the peanut business?
Don't understand the RJ hate from this article, he's 100% right
He isn't undermining anything Kawhi has done, he's just saying that the small forward position in Pop's system next to the big 3 doesn't get the chance to shine and really display much more than the corner 3, which he did well in his time here.
The RJ singing was highly celebrated just as derek anderson was among spurs fans. Both of those guys were great for their old teams. they just didnt work out here. RJ just couldnt fit and DA was ed by Juan Howard. If timing was different, who knows how it wouldve worked out for both of them.
You are correct about the defense. And part of the problem was Pop was going through his small ball 4 phase and was bound and determined to make Jefferson a small ball 4 when the only way that can work is with a 4 who is an adequate defender at either the 3 or 4 spot. Jefferson had his problems either way but especially at the 4 where he offered no rim protection or rebounding.
lol
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