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Blindly measuring a player's worth by rings is an antiquated method of ranking legacies, tbh..
The 2 other "super friends" haven't been anything near superstars in most of Miami's 2 les runs, for instance..
Where does he rank all time?
A lot of you are quick to anoint him to top 5 but eeeeh with only two rings after joining the super friends? Idk
Discuss.
Blindly measuring a player's worth by rings is an antiquated method of ranking legacies, tbh..
The 2 other "super friends" haven't been anything near superstars in most of Miami's 2 les runs, for instance
He's greater than all of em besides MJ, Magic & KAJ tbh.
D Wade started breaking down their second year, but he was good in 2011. And they only have themselves to blame for not getting the full potential of Bosh. Although Bosh is pretty clutch for them, and quietly gets his.Blindly measuring a player's worth by rings is an antiquated method of ranking legacies, tbh..
The 2 other "super friends" haven't been anything near superstars in most of Miami's 2 les runs, for instance
Rings are all that matter, he needs at least 4 more to surpass MJ. Why do I say that? Well because he basically admitted to this when he left Cleveland for Miami. If rings don't matter then why not stay in Cleveland? He put himself in this situation so unless he wins 4 more he will never be considered GOAT.
Larry Bird??
why did your hero abandon his team in the first place? Oh yeah, rings. He also said "not 4 not 5 not 6 not 7"Blindly measuring a player's worth by rings is an antiquated method of ranking legacies, tbh..
The 2 other "super friends" haven't been anything near superstars in most of Miami's 2 les runs, for instance
now when he's breaking down rings don't matter
An amazing Finals run is the only thing holding Lebron back IMO.
In order for him to not win again it must be a disastrous reason why.
best I ever seen, tbh.
Lebron is doing it against a much tougher era.
Lebron is definitely better than DWhistle and Raptor when it comes to the time all ranks. DWhistle hasn't been the same since being wheeled off in that wheel chair because he hurted his arm.
International players, coaches and defenses are way more better these days. more analytics are being applied by more teams... there's more talent in the league. better player development, better everything.
Mainly the inclusion/explosion of international players, which have affected numerous Finals teams (Nowitzki, Gasol, Parker/Ginobili)
Not sheriff srs
He basically gets a 2 round bye to the ECF every year and then punks some young Buck team and that's his road to the finals. If he was in the West, you would have an argument.
So you're saying this era has tougher D than the 80s era? I'm just asking, I wasn't alive in the 80s so maybe you're spitting troof bombs rn.
round 2 bye to ECF? like the Celtics in '11 and the Pacers in '12?
Only last year was a "bye" in the 2nd round.
True but I'm still not convinced this is the toughest era of basketball
I didn't say rings don't matter, I said ranking players by ring count is ing stupid, tbhwhy did your hero abandon his team in the first place? Oh yeah, rings. He also said "not 4 not 5 not 6 not 7"
now when he's breaking down rings don't matter
Bill Russell is unarguably the GOAT according to ring count advocates
If you want to argue that Horry shouldn't count because these arguments are reserved for star players, then where do you draw the line?..how do you decide which players to exclude from the argument?..how do you weigh the value of each player's le run?..
His impact on the game is undeniably surreal.
He can't be criticized for 2 rings because he's been on a contender only ever since joining the Heat.
Even if he didn't win one from now on he should go down as at least 2nd best ever.
btw a lot of people think Heat would be done if they didn't win this year... not true, Lebron is only 29... Heat will be around for the next half decade IMO, although I think the Pacers / Thunder / Warriors have more upside.
The 90s had the following teams as contenders: a team with Reggie Miller as a best player(), a team with John Starks(Monta Ellis 2.0) as the 2nd best player, a team with Rik Smits and past his prime Reggie as the best players, etc
No one ITT mentioned the 90s.The 90s had the following teams as contenders: a team with Reggie Miller as a best player(
.........am I being punk'd
Dad Killer is the consensus GOAT, he's the comparison..
Bosh/Wade is pretty much on par with Pippen/Rodman, Id rather have Pippen/Rodman, tbh.
the superfriends argument is weak.
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