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    Spurs assistant coaches are a complete joke this year. Boylen didn't forget to play Ayres or run Tony and Tim back out there.. I can't understand having a 22 year old kid average on 28 minutes a game against Portland this year.

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    It wasn't just that. They failed to put Manu back in the game until 5 minutes were left. If I'm not mistaken, Jeff McDonald tweeted that Manu finally just oft up and put HIMSELF in the game...ran to the scorers table, no word or eye contact betweem he and Boylen. Completely ridiculous. Inexcusable.

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    It wasn't just that. They failed to put Manu back in the game until 5 minutes were left. If I'm not mistaken, Jeff McDonald tweeted that Manu finally just oft up and put HIMSELF in the game...ran to the scorers table, no word or eye contact betweem he and Boylen. Completely ridiculous. Inexcusable.

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    embarrassing...coach bud and brown aint walking threw them doors, if pop goes down this team is ed...

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    It wasn't just that. They failed to put Manu back in the game until 5 minutes were left. If I'm not mistaken, Jeff McDonald tweeted that Manu finally just oft up and put HIMSELF in the game...ran to the scorers table, no word or eye contact betweem he and Boylen. Completely ridiculous. Inexcusable.


    dude was killing it in the third tbh..There's no excuse to wait in the last 4-5 minutes of the game...

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    these are the same coahces that would handle Kawhi when pop retires...


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    Not sure why Kawhi wouldn't even ask to go in either. How long before Kawhi asks to leave?

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    I have to believe that the Spurs would do a better job of finding a coach then just letting these clowns be in charge if Pop were to step away

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    I dont know, anyone can "say" everything is ok for PR but it's very hard to hide body language and KL's looks very disengaged right now. He looks so frustrated and unmotivated out there this season. I dont know whats going on behind closed doors and I only can speculate.

    As for our assistant coaches, Yeah they are pretty much all a joke. Didn't one of them highly recommend Errors? Anyway, worst we have had in the Pop Era I think.

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    IIRC, it's the first game this guy is coaching here, and so there's going to be a learning curve. Hopefully this was a learning experience for everyone.
    i basically agree. I kept telling my brother that they need to put Kawhi in, so pretty embarrassing I even noticed it but I will still give Boylen some leeway there. I imagine he was just overwhelmed by the moment and screwed up, now if he keeps ting the bed then obviously he's not cut out for HC. But I won't roast him yet.

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    I dont know, anyone can "say" everything is ok for PR but it's very hard to hide body language and KL's looks very disengaged right now. He looks so frustrated and unmotivated out there this season. I dont know whats going on behind closed doors and I only can speculate.

    As for our assistant coaches, Yeah they are pretty much all a joke. Didn't one of them highly recommend Errors? Anyway, worst we have had in the Pop Era I think.
    Wow, I'm not the only one who noticed.

    The numbers suggest Leonard is having his best year as a spur, but from games 30 onwards ( games where he had streches of 3-6 shots a game) he just hasn't looked straight at all. He still put out his hear out there defensively though

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    The majority of people that said the Spurs would win the West once again, myself included, based it on the growth of Leonard's responsibility and touches in the system to negate the potential decline of Duncan/Parker..so far, other than the first few games following Splitter's injury, the coaching staff has made minimal effort to give Leonard his own set of plays, tbh..

    Kawhi certainly has to be more assertive, but the Spurs' system isn't a free-for-all system that glorifies isolation players..Leonard is a long SF/small PF..he's a new-NBA type of player..he doesn't have the guard skills to penetrate consistently and create from the 3-point line, he's a SF in the mold of Luol Deng, Marion, etc..

    You have to put him in positions to succeed..he has been scoring at an efficient rate in the halfcourt, and he routinely takes advantage of his opponents in the post..he's a mid-post, mid-range attacker, tbh..

    It's still early in the season, but it's very disappointing that this coaching staff hasn't taken the steps to make him an integral shot creator, and it's sad that he's often forgotten in a mul ude of ways..


    You can also include Green in the discussion, as he was the scapegoat for the Splitter/Duncan spacing problems, which is unfair and his demotion has hurt the team, he's clearly the best perimeter man-to-man defender on the team, tbh..

    Btw, we miss you, coach Bud..

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    The assistant coaching staff is a complete joke this year.
    I kinda was thinking about it all year long.


    Are Udoka and Marks 'the elite' ?

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    The majority of people that said the Spurs would win the West once again, myself included, based it on the growth of Leonard's responsibility and touches in the system to negate the potential decline of Duncan/Parker..so far, other than the first few games following Splitter's injury, the coaching staff has made minimal effort to give Leonard his own set of plays, tbh..

    Kawhi certainly has to be more assertive, but the Spurs' system isn't a free-for-all system that glorifies isolation players..Leonard is a long SF/small PF..he's a new-NBA type of player..he doesn't have the guard skills to penetrate consistently and create from the 3-point line, he's a SF in the mold of Luol Deng, Marion, etc..

    You have to put him in positions to succeed..he has been scoring at an efficient rate in the halfcourt, and he routinely takes advantage of his opponents in the post..he's a mid-post, mid-range attacker, tbh..

    It's still early in the season, but it's very disappointing that this coaching staff hasn't taken the steps to make him an integral shot creator, and it's sad that he's often forgotten in a mul ude of ways..


    You can also include Green in the discussion, as he was the scapegoat for the Splitter/Duncan spacing problems, which is unfair and his demotion has hurt the team, he's clearly the best perimeter man-to-man defender on the team, tbh..

    Btw, we miss you, coach Bud..
    great takes all around ,tbh

    i underestimated the impact of losing both Bud and Brown, but i forgot that pop likes to get himself ejected more often that other coaches

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    It's pretty damn telling that your play is so passive that the coach forgets you on the bench. Sure you can fault the coach, but Kwahi falling below the radar is his own damn fault. If he's the 3rd best player on the team why doesn't he play like it?

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    Kawhi should be a lock for 30+ mins in every non-blowout game, regardless of how he's playing tbh.

    I've been pretty unhappy with how his role has been handled thus far this season by Pop, the assistants, and even the Big 3 tbh. Still a lot of time in the season so I hope he's able to expand his impact moving forward.

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    Kawhi should be a lock for 30+ mins in every non-blowout game, regardless of how he's playing tbh.

    I've been pretty unhappy with how his role has been handled thus far this season by Pop, the assistants, and even the Big 3 tbh. Still a lot of time in the season so I hope he's able to expand his impact moving forward.
    It's pretty sad that he's not getting 30 to 35 minutes a game. Guys a muscle car who only gets driven to and from the store on Sundays

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    Kawhi should be a lock for 30+ mins in every non-blowout game, regardless of how he's playing tbh.

    I've been pretty unhappy with how his role has been handled thus far this season by Pop, the assistants, and even the Big 3 tbh. Still a lot of time in the season so I hope he's able to expand his impact moving forward.
    This. Paul George's transition to becoming a superstar wasn't overnight. But Indiana consistently gave him minutes (averaged almost 38 mpg last year, and he didn't look insanely good besides a few moments in the playoffs) and he improved massively. I'm not saying Kawhi is or will be as good as Paul George, but my point is that giving him 33-34 mpg will only help his growth as a player. He played lots of minutes in the playoffs last year and looked great. Posted basically a 19 PER and played spectacular defense.

    Unless I'm unaware of how severe of an issue his tendinitis is (which, I'll readily admit is a possibility), I see NO reason Kawhi shouldn't be playing 32-34 mpg...even in the regular season.

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    I missed the Portland game. Hard to imagine someone would forget to play a starter, and the only true small forward on our roster.

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    This. Paul George's transition to becoming a superstar wasn't overnight. But Indiana consistently gave him minutes (averaged almost 38 mpg last year, and he didn't look insanely good besides a few moments in the playoffs) and he improved massively. I'm not saying Kawhi is or will be as good as Paul George, but my point is that giving him 33-34 mpg will only help his growth as a player. He played lots of minutes in the playoffs last year and looked great. Posted basically a 19 PER and played spectacular defense.

    Unless I'm unaware of how severe of an issue his tendinitis is (which, I'll readily admit is a possibility), I see NO reason Kawhi shouldn't be playing 32-34 mpg...even in the regular season.
    Paul George was also in a situation where he was forced to shoot the ball when he found it in his possession. Kawhi has shied away from this usually hesitating too much on 3 pointers, backing up and passing the ball when he has a lane to drive the ball.

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    It's pretty damn telling that your play is so passive that the coach forgets you on the bench. Sure you can fault the coach, but Kwahi falling below the radar is his own damn fault. If he's the 3rd best player on the team why doesn't he play like it?
    This was a silly post tbh.

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    Paul George was also in a situation where he was forced to shoot the ball when he found it in his possession. Kawhi has shied away from this usually hesitating too much on 3 pointers, backing up and passing the ball when he has a lane to drive the ball.
    Again, I'm not saying Kawhi is the same mold as Paul George or that it's 100% the coaches' fault. But I can assure you playing Kawhi 5 more minutes each game would only help his growth as a player (assuming his knees can handle it obviously). He rarely plays with the bench unit...if he did, he'd be a first or second option most likely, and that would give him opportunity to have a bigger role and would give him confidence that could carry over into when he plays with the starting unit.

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    Again, I'm not saying Kawhi is the same mold as Paul George or that it's 100% the coaches' fault. But I can assure you playing Kawhi 5 more minutes each game would only help his growth as a player (assuming his knees can handle it obviously). He rarely plays with the bench unit...if he did, he'd be a first or second option most likely, and that would give him opportunity to have a bigger role and would give him confidence that could carry over into when he plays with the starting unit.
    I agree, no harm can come to playing Kawhi more minutes.

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    This. Paul George's transition to becoming a superstar wasn't overnight. But Indiana consistently gave him minutes (averaged almost 38 mpg last year, and he didn't look insanely good besides a few moments in the playoffs) and he improved massively. I'm not saying Kawhi is or will be as good as Paul George, but my point is that giving him 33-34 mpg will only help his growth as a player. He played lots of minutes in the playoffs last year and looked great. Posted basically a 19 PER and played spectacular defense.

    Unless I'm unaware of how severe of an issue his tendinitis is (which, I'll readily admit is a possibility), I see NO reason Kawhi shouldn't be playing 32-34 mpg...even in the regular season.
    It can become chronic with overuse. People don't quite understand what a big jump is to go from 30 something NCAA games of 40 minutes duration to 100+ games of 48 minutes duration on an NBA contender.

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    Sounds like a test to see if Kawhi would stand up and be a bit of a leader and make himself heard instead of being a yes man, if that's the case, he failed. Surely the coaches wouldn't forget a player

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