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KG took turns with Perkins.
even if you convince yourself to take KD over PG, the gap between them ain't really that big as some people here make it look to be, tbh.
KG took turns with Perkins.
If Dr. Buss was alive, we'd have both by now
Live or dead wouldn't make a dime's worth of difference. We didn't get undone by the old man's death. We got undone by Mark Cuban. His ambition from the start there in Dallas (after he got a look at the skyline) was to bring us to justice. It didn't happen in a year, or, a decade, (those kinda things) never do. They start in such a small fraction of a space you don't even realize it. By the time you do see the 50 foot tidal wave coming at you, it's much too late. With Cuban it was personal as well as professional. Others before him had seen it but had either been bought off by Buss, or, were happy just be to be in the NBA and were busy with (life). Not Cuban, he was incensed at the situation and vowed he'd change it. He went door-to-door thru the years, gleaned & garnered support and roused the rabble. I can't even in good conscience blame him. If I was in his position I'd be outraged as well, but, perhaps not as driven as he was. No one had been. He made it his life's quest to run Buss/us to ground.
And he did it.
Now we're waiting our turn like every other asshole in the line. It's dirty & ugly & vulgar.
ADDENDUM:::But, I got the memories. Those, those I'll take to the grave. And the "Cubans" of this mortal coil cannot take those from me, nor even touch them.
Put it this way. Switch teams and Indiana would have won it all with Durant last year and this year.
MVPau got you 2 as the alphaPERIOD
MessiWhere?
Most sane people agree KG > Dirkfailing to understand the point
2 Hall of famers in their prime carrying the offense. And it's funny how as the franchise star he couldn't lead Minny to more than 2 playoff wins.
Crofl thinking carrying a stacked 62-20 team that made a game 7 in the 2nd round against the eventual Eastern Champs without KG> carrying a 2-7 team without Dirk to the NBA Championship
And here's some more facts when it comes to carrying teams to success:
Dirk: 8 reg seasons, 7 playoff years with a WS/48 higher than .200 (with his top 3 years coming from 05-07 when he had the tiest cast of his career)
KG: 5 reg seasons, 2 playoff years with a WS/48 higher than .200
KG: missed the playoffs 3 times in his prime...
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after manu > dirk now kg > dirk... dat DAF don't like dat german
KD
As much as I liked the kid, his parades to the free throw line now kinda makes the game uninteresting. You're not allowed to play physical D on him and its frustrating.
With that said, people who say KD doesn't play D need to realize the guy trying to guard him expends so much energy on D, he conserves on the offensive, does very little moving, so KD isn't forced to play that hard. Its highly effective. KD should get credit for that. Now if guys were allowed to be a little more physical, it'd be a different story, but its not KDs fault
Argentinians are mostly nazi sympathizers as far as I know, no way could he dislike them Germans in general, imho.
Ironic because Hitler would have erased the continent of those third world rats.
right now you have to go with KD, one of the greatest scorers the league has ever seen. However pg is only 23 and still improving. He has the chance to be a better player when its all said and done
Isn't your point that Dirk > KG. Or is it that you always have to choose the better scorer? 'cause that's a pretty re ed point too.Messi
Why the did he lead the Celtics in PPG in the regular season and playoffs if other two guys were carrying the offense?2 Hall of famers in their prime carrying the offense. And it's funny how as the franchise star he couldn't lead Minny to more than 2 playoff wins.
Crofl thinking carrying a stacked 62-20 team that made a game 7 in the 2nd round against the eventual Eastern Champs without KG> carrying a 2-7 team without Dirk to the NBA Championship
And here's some more facts when it comes to carrying teams to success:
Dirk: 8 reg seasons, 7 playoff years with a WS/48 higher than .200 (with his top 3 years coming from 05-07 when he had the tiest cast of his career)
KG: 5 reg seasons, 2 playoff years with a WS/48 higher than .200
KG: missed the playoffs 3 times in his prime
Durant definitely. Not even a question.
just like in your eyes, most sane people agree Manu > DirkWhere?
Most sane people agree KG > Dirk
He didn't carry the Celtics team, it's not even his team
Dirk's 2011 performance epitomized carrying a team to a championship.
If you want to argue that KG is the better overall player, I'll give you that, but I stick with my opinion that KG hasn't been able to carry a team like Dirk to a championship.
Sup Mr. "I'm trolling people left and right, I'm on a roll today" A.K.A "post deleter"just like in your eyes, most sane people agree Manu > Dirk
He lead his team in points while being the defensive anchor, if that's not carrying a team I don't know what is.
I don't think most people think it's obvious that KG > Dirk. I think it's very, very close imo I'd give Dirk the slight edge because of his unreal, legendary performance in 2011
Fact check, Pierce led the Celtics in scoring in the 2007-08 regular season. Pierce also has a slightly higher OWS and slightly lower DWS. The two, based on statistics alone, are actually pretty close in terms of sharing the load. Put in Ray Allen, who wasn't that far off in OWS from PP and KG, and the load is pretty evenly spread.
Where as the 2011 Dirk led the Mavs in scoring by a significant margin (23ppg vs 15.8 in the regular season, 27.7 vs. 17.5 in the playoffs), led the team in OWS by a large margin (7.8 vs. 5.8 in RS, 3.6 vs. 2.7 in PO), and isn't that far off in defense (tied for 1st on team with 0.9 DWS in playoffs, and 3.3 vs. 3.9 in regular season, ranking 4th behind Kidd, Chandler and Marion).
Yes, just re-checked. My bad.
Dirk's Ray Allen was Jason Terry, and his Paul Pierce was Josh Howard
lol WS/48
And here's some more facts when it comes to carrying teams to success:
Dirk: 8 reg seasons, 7 playoff years with a WS/48 higher than .200 (with his top 3 years coming from 05-07 when he had the tiest cast of his career)
KG: 5 reg seasons, 2 playoff years with a WS/48 higher than .200
KG: missed the playoffs 3 times in his prime
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...48_career.html
Manu > Dirk
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