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    you clearly have not seen Ellis play
    I have and I'm not the only one with that opinion... go take a look in the NBA forum... it's littered all over there... cost the Mavs at least 3-4 games with terrible shot selection

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    miami moves without the ball. our problem is that we don't move without the ball. i don't blame them, cuz it's not like parker is gonna see them or even pass it to them when they cut to the basket
    Offense isn't our problem. We have been scoring very well this season. It is our defense that really needs help. Having our best defender (Leonard), second best defender (Splitter), and fourth best defender (Green) on the bench didn't help today.

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    spurs actually broke 100
    more important to Miami did not score 130

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    According to the GOAT poster, T Park, he can't play defense.

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    Offense isn't our problem. We have been scoring very well this season. It is our defense that really needs help. Having our best defender (Leonard), second best defender (Splitter), and fourth best defender (Green) on the bench didn't help today.
    Oh splitter on the floor helped Miami quite a lot in the finals.

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    Offense isn't our problem. We have been scoring very well this season. It is our defense that really needs help. Having our best defender (Leonard), second best defender (Splitter), and fourth best defender (Green) on the bench didn't help today.
    We can't rely on paper mache

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    Offense isn't our problem. We have been scoring very well this season. It is our defense that really needs help. Having our best defender (Leonard), second best defender (Splitter), and fourth best defender (Green) on the bench didn't help today.
    I agree, more an offense without players who can create their own will not work at critical moments in the playoffs

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    Sure, Miami's PnR defense is elite. We all know this. But Spurs haven't been playing MIA every game and Manu has still struggled (especially the last 4 games). His shot is really wayward and his ast/to ratio is terrible (again last 4 games). Could be a slump but with the same hammy being injured it sure is scary.

    With regards to MIA specifically, Manu still has so much room for improvement. He has to be willing to shoot more and he has to shoot straight. He also has to look to drive more consistently when MIA switches all the time. Those are all within his control.
    Let's just hope that he is being hesitant and doesn't want to push it. Watching him today, he looked as if he was not going all-out. Obviously, his intensity has been his calling card throughout his career. When he begins to be an on-looker at there, he doesn't have much value.

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    offense is not a problem

    Our go to play in the 3rd when the Heat turned the pressure on was running loop for 2 straight Tony jumpshots from 20 feet. Brick, brick.


    Same story vs OKC as well.

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    Oh splitter on the floor helped Miami quite a lot in the finals.
    Oh, I agree. But it wasn't his defense that was the problem in the Finals. It was his offense. More Diaw and less Splitter should help against the Heat. My point is that we are okay on the offensive end. Defense is the most worrying.

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    We can't rely on paper mache
    Chalmers dunked on him and blocked like two of his shots in the finals. The entire heat team had boners when he was on the floor.

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    Monta Ellis, really?

    If he was on the Spurs, he would be receiving unprecedented levels of hate on this board.

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    offense is not a problem

    Our go to play in the 3rd when the Heat turned the pressure on was running loop for 2 straight Tony jumpshots from 20 feet. Brick, brick.


    Same story vs OKC as well.
    Those were bad decisions by Tony, agreed. We went away from what works. But our defense was far more worrying in the 3rd quarter. The Heat got everything they wanted on the offensive end.

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    Offense isn't our problem. We have been scoring very well this season. It is our defense that really needs help. Having our best defender (Leonard), second best defender (Splitter), and fourth best defender (Green) on the bench didn't help today.
    defense will always be our problem when we have one of the worst defensive pgs in the whole league. even with those guys playing, parker allows his man to blow past him cuz he's been spoiled his whole career with a prime duncan and other defenders. well duncan isn't in his 20s or early 30s anymore. he's got to man up and play some fukin defense but i'm sure he doesn't know how to.

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    defense will always be our problem when we have one of the worst defensive pgs in the whole league. even with those guys playing, parker allows his man to blow past him cuz he's been spoiled his whole career with a prime duncan and other defenders. well duncan isn't in his 20s or early 30s anymore. he's got to man up and play some fukin defense but i'm sure he doesn't know how to.
    Very true. I don't have the numbers but he used to play respectable defense through the majority of his career. Now I notice that he barely tries to get past screen nowadays and far too often loses his man.

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    Baynes can actually rebound and match up with actual bigs..as well as score in the low block.


    Why does pop insists on throwing 6-8 stone-hands ayers out there instead of baynes.????
    I really don't think Baynes can be effective or consistent against a playoff teams second unit in the post season. He looks alright in garbage time or in 2nd quarters on random nights.

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    Oh, I agree. But it wasn't his defense that was the problem in the Finals. It was his offense. More Diaw and less Splitter should help on the defensive end. My point is that we are okay on the offensive end. Defense is the most worrying.
    Yeah but the offense should still be a concern because we're relying too much on the three ball and low percentage shots. We don't have enough player who can consistently drive to the lane and recover back on the other end fast enough to play some d. We're simply lacking athleticism and it affects both ends.

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    Monta Ellis, really?

    If he was on the Spurs, he would be receiving unprecedented levels of hate on this board.
    unless the person really watch basketball and not just keep repeating something to look smart

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    ****Amazing Stat****

    Last 3 games for Diaw (shooting 3's)

    2-2 vs. OKC
    3-4 vs. ATL
    3-3 vs. MIA
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    =8-9 3pt (88%)

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    Very true. I don't have the numbers but he used to play respectable defense through the majority of his career. Now I notice that he barely tries to get past screen nowadays and far too often loses his man.
    respectable as in not letting his man score 30? hahaha. the only finals he didn't let a pg get off was 2007 and that was gibson and pavlovic(sp?). billups, kidd, and chalmers(in crucial games) did their normal or above normal work to him.

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    ****Amazing Stat****

    Last 3 games for Diaw (shooting 3's)

    2-2 vs. OKC
    3-4 vs. ATL
    3-3 vs. MIA
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    =8-9 3pt (88%)
    He would hit more if he didn't pump fake so much

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    Yeah but the offense should still be a concern because we're relying too much on the three ball and low percentage shots. We don't have enough player who can consistently drive to the lane and recover back on the other end fast enough to play some d. We're simply lacking athleticism and it affects both ends.
    True. I believe that there are concerns on both ends. But if I was looking to add a piece before the playoff push, I would rather grab up someone known for shutting down his opponent before getting someone who can put the ball in the hole. To me, our primary need is a 3/4 that can play defense and is able to spell either Leonard or Duncan/Splitter for a combined 25 minutes (at least) a night. If Ayres is still in the rotation and Leonard is our sole SF when the playoffs roll around, the Spurs FO messed up.

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    Spurs do seem to struggle against length+athleticism.

    Parker, Mills, Beli, and Manu all were kept in check. Only Duncan and Diaw could really score.

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