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    it was a bad signing especially because it did not solve any of the problems, it just gave more depth in a position where we were already too stacked. we should have signed either a defensive stopper or a two way player veteran or young i don't care. We choosed the easy way and it came down to hunt us.
    I think the front office made Marco a priority because of Manu. It wasn't a sure thing Manu was going to recover from the Finals and since Danny Green isn't a reliable scorer or a playmaker, bringing in Marco solved that. So I think Marco solved something.

    I do think though that an SF should have been the bigger priority, but I think the front office tried getting one with Kirilenko but were played dirty.

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    Is raven really complaining about beli signing?

    give me one player available who would have helped more than beli for 7M 2 years

    dear god people likes ing for the sake of it

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    Is raven really complaining about beli signing?

    give me one player available who would have helped more than beli for 7M 2 years

    dear god people likes ing for the sake of it
    belinelli doesn't help, he hurts. Having a player less would have helped more.

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    I think the front office made Marco a priority because of Manu. It wasn't a sure thing Manu was going to recover from the Finals and since Danny Green isn't a reliable scorer or a playmaker, bringing in Marco solved that. So I think Marco solved something.

    I do think though that an SF should have been the bigger priority, but I think the front office tried getting one with Kirilenko but were played dirty.
    that is not solving, it's defering. And i don't care about the reasoning, if they thought Manu was done, then why did they resign him in the first place. The facts are that our perimeter D is our problem and another fact is that belinelli is our worst perimeter defender.

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    Like other people said, Belinelli is a sort of Neal upgraded, at least in the regular season, and less paid for a period of time of two years.
    The hope (and the only questionable point in saying he could be a better player than Neal) is that, in play offs, he will be as clutch as Neal has been on offense and better than Neal on defense (but Beli in Chicago has shown that is play offs performances are usually not that bad).
    As a role, Neal has been useful in the past, sometimes crucial...so it's obvious he was a sort of fit for our team that needed to be replaced.
    As of now, Beli has shown he's better than Neal on offense (all star three points shooter, can cut a lot better, can shoot coming off the screens) and on defense (also if his defense is bad...but no way Neal's defense was better).
    Frankly, there was nothing better on the market...and let's face it : the bad record agaist elite teams don't come because of the 2nd unit...

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    Is raven really complaining about beli signing?

    give me one player available who would have helped more than beli for 7M 2 years

    dear god people likes ing for the sake of it
    Helped doing what? Explain to me what does he help to do.

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    Helped doing what? Explain to me what does he help to do.
    Like being the 3 pts best shooter in the league ?

    7 M dude...

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    Like other people said, Belinelli is a sort of Neal upgraded, at least in the regular season, and less paid for a period of time of two years.
    The hope (and the only questionable point in saying he could be a better player than Neal) is that, in play offs, he will be as clutch as Neal has been on offense and better than Neal on defense (but Beli in Chicago has shown that is play offs performances are usually not that bad).
    As a role, Neal has been useful in the past, sometimes crucial...so it's obvious he was a sort of fit for our team that needed to be replaced.
    As of now, Beli has shown he's better than Neal on offense (all star three points shooter, can cut a lot better, can shoot coming off the screens) and on defense (also if his defense is bad...but no way Neal's defense was better).
    Frankly, there was nothing better on the market...and let's face it : the bad record agaist elite teams don't come because of the 2nd unit...
    Yes, Belinelli is better than Neal with plantar faciitis but he's not an upgrade over Neal and Kirilenko. Signing Ayres and Belinelli with MLE money was a flat out joke. Resigning Neal and signing Kirilenko to the MLE would have given them a spark off the bench and a backup SF who can defend. Instead, they got a trash PF that can't shoot or defend and a shooting guard/SF/but sometimes a PG who gets torched on defense on a nightly basis. For every point Belinelli scores on offense, he gives up twice as many on defense. Unfortunately for the Spurs, Belinelli plays a much bigger role than Neal did so every mistake he makes gets magnified x2.

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    Like being the 3 pts best shooter in the league ?

    7 M dude...
    garbage time statistics.. and it's not going to last anyway, he's not as good as he has been from 3pt range, he just had a stretch of like 20 games when defenders didn't pay attention to him.

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    garbage time statistics.. and it's not going to last anyway, he's not as good as he has been from 3pt range, he just had a stretch of like 20 games when defenders didn't pay attention to him.
    garbage time ? defenders didn't pay attention to him ?

    btw I'm waiting for your FA at 7M 2 years available that would be better than him

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    Kirilenko was not coming here...he was contacted and he was our first choice, but he was not coming here.
    So the Neal + ak 47 idea never had the chance to come true.
    Its obvious that ak 47 took something "more" from the Nets in some sort of way than the three millions...

    That said, I don't understand, looking at the present season, how is possible to still compare Neal to Beli.
    Neal is not playing well in Milwaukee. Beli is playing more than decently for us.
    It's been a winning switchc, at least at the moment. No possible doubt about that...

    And speaking of Ayres, for what he's paid he's playing decently and improving by the day...(at least he's not missing dunks anymore)...in a complicate system and with an expanded role.
    Once he'll got accostumed on the defensive rules of our team, imho he'll be able to give us a solid contribution.

    Like said before, at the moment our losses with the top teams are explained by the lack of production of our first unit.
    My hope is that they're just coasting till the play offs, considering that in regular season a win with a scrub team is equal to a win with a top team...

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    lol Kirilenko.

    spurfan has more alternate realities than comic books.

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    We honestly just need to have Green starting. The Bel experiment has gone wrong when he starts. Ginobili and Belinelli off the bench with Diaw was so effective at the beginning of the year. I understand that our starters were having offensive troubles at the beginning of the year (which is why they put a playmaker in there), but it's not the case anymore. I'd rather Ginobili start than Bel.

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    We honestly just need to have Green starting. The Bel experiment has gone wrong when he starts. Ginobili and Belinelli off the bench with Diaw was so effective at the beginning of the year. I understand that our starters were having offensive troubles at the beginning of the year (which is why they put a playmaker in there), but it's not the case anymore. I'd rather Ginobili start than Bel.
    Problem is still there, but green should be in the starting lineup.

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    The Splitter/Duncan starting lineup doesn't work anymore. That's the big deal.

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    I, after seeing a season long sample size that resulted in a finals berth, am not ready to say TnT doesn't work anymore. It's been rough to start this year, but I don't think it's done.

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    Problem is still there, but green should be in the starting lineup.
    this

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    The Splitter/Duncan starting lineup doesn't work anymore. That's the big deal.
    Respectfully disagree. The defensive numbers prove otherwise.

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    Respectfully disagree. The defensive numbers prove otherwise.
    The offensive numbers are pretty dreadful. I'm not saying ditch it all together, just don't spot the other team so many points from the tip.

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    Lol,as soon as Green is back in the line up, blowing layups, and losing the ball off the dribble, Spurs fan will be crying for Beli to be back in the line up. Green gets a pass while not playing more than he does when he plays. That tells you all you need to know.

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    The team has a 0.1% chance of getting past the second round of the PO, might as well blow it up and get picks for the two strongest drafts in years...

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    The team has a 0.1% chance of getting past the second round of the PO, might as well blow it up and get picks for the two strongest drafts in years...
    Time to take off the Spurs goggles and really explore what we can do with our core 3 guys realistically in the next season or so with the offense/defense and players we have.. I agree about picks though, I don't think we have enough assets to land anyone through trades or to pick up a free agent with our cap space so we will have to draft and play them in the weakest spots we have.

    The hard part is just managing the cap space that we have because we carry bloated contracts.

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    garbage time ? defenders didn't pay attention to him ?

    btw I'm waiting for your FA at 7M 2 years available that would be better than him
    1-7 from 3 yesterday... you see the pattern? and our second rounder would have been better.

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    bump

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    1-7 from 3 yesterday... you see the pattern? and our second rounder would have been better.
    again what FA at 7M 2 years would have been better than Beli ?

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