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    We'll let him walk and Dallas will snatch him up and have a temple built for him until December.
    ing this. I'm 100% sure he's already in talks with Cuban.

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    I don't think Baynes will be any more efficient with his minutes, but I'd like to see him get some PT against Chicago. The biggest difference between Baynes and Ayres (Other than their size/quickness levels) is the fact Ayres NEEDS the system to get buckets, while Baynes is better at creating his own . With San Antonio's best play-makers most likely sitting out tomorrow, expect an invisible Ayres tbh.

    As for the OP's question, I seriously doubt it. Pop is Pop, to put it short.

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    i'm sure in his time here so far he has picked up the necessary corporate knowledge to enjoy a long career here. he'll be sitting next to Ime in about 12 years

    sons in 15 years we'll have Head Coach Ayers

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    FO was hungry then and were able to get long players and fill in gaps during those years. After 2007 the FO gave up and tried to make a splash with RJ but that was a failure because of RJ being passive and the system. If we don't somehow luck into a draft pick or picking up a player we don't try to get players that fill a need and improve our defense or length.
    2007 summer was the most embarrassing or the front office. Celtics/Lakers both got better that year while SA stood pat with an old decaying roster. Then they go and offload the only decent asset they had. Trading a top international player(Scola) to a division rival because you need to save money. Holt can go himself.

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    Can be another trade fodder piece.. with his pretty decent two year contract for a big. But I guess the Spurs will want to live with him till Splitter is out before seeking a decent PF at the trade deadline.

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    Seems like Pop is already souring on him, tbh..

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    Worst rotation big I've ever seen play next to Duncan. How the did the FO look at his underwhelming resume and decide it was worth giving 2 mil/year to this sack of ?

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    Worst rotation big I've ever seen play next to Duncan. How the did the FO look at his underwhelming resume and decide it was worth giving 2 mil/year to this sack of ?
    They look so dumb for it now, last year or two the Duncan era and they recruit Ayres...

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    They look so dumb for it now, last year or two the Duncan era and they recruit Ayres...
    Boylen's supposed to be a specialist in developing bigs. I'm surprised someone with his experience(20 years as assistant coach) recommended Ayres to the club. He worked closely with Ayres in Indiana - he would know, better than anyone, about the flaws in his game.

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    Both Ayers and Baynes have been disappointing.

    Ayers has by far the highest turnover percentage (23%) of any of the 10 rotation players.

    Baynes per 36 minutes block to foul rate- .4/5.2

    I'd been in favor of playing Leonard at PF for 7 or 8 minutes after all star break. Or essentially going 3 deep in PF-C minutes.

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    Its like he lathers his hands up with butter, kept at the scores table.

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    Its like he lathers his hands up with butter, kept at the scores table.
    The dude couldn't catch H1N1.

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    Pop apparently loves him, so he will continue to get lots of minutes no matter how many blank stat lines he puts up.

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    Pop looked extremely mad when he pulled him out, and he didn't play a minute since...

    Is this the end of the season for Ayers?
    No.

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    Pop apparently loves him, so he will continue to get lots of minutes no matter how many blank stat lines he puts up.
    A Brooks-Perkins love affair?

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    Both Ayers and Baynes have been disappointing.

    Ayers has by far the highest turnover percentage (23%) of any of the 10 rotation players.

    Baynes per 36 minutes block to foul rate- .4/5.2

    I'd been in favor of playing Leonard at PF for 7 or 8 minutes after all star break. Or essentially going 3 deep in PF-C minutes.
    Ayers has gotten a legitimate 3+ month look and disappointed. Baynes has played more than 10 mins 8 times all season. 3 of those 8 have been in the last 5 games. In those 3 games he has had a block in each and 1.6 fouls to go along with 7 points 5 boards and an assist in 16 mins.

    Why on earth are you using Baynes' season of garbage time as the basis to judge him?

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    Ayers has gotten a legitimate 3+ month look and disappointed. Baynes has played more than 10 mins 8 times all season. 3 of those 8 have been in the last 5 games. In those 3 games he has had a block in each and 1.6 fouls to go along with 7 points 5 boards and an assist in 16 mins.

    Why on earth are you using Baynes' season of garbage time as the basis to judge him?
    Thats because Baynes isn't De Colo (who plays virtually all of his minutes in garbabe time, thus the lowest amount of total minutes on the team)

    Baynes has played meaningful minutes starting usually the second quarters of games. He does play in garbage time, but he hasn't even impressed there. When he has gotten opportunity (I.E the @ GSW game when Splitter, & Ayers both got off to bad starts, Baynes came in and played even worse and Pop never back to him)

    Looking at 10 games for accurate statistics, instead of the 29 games he's appeared in.

    A larger sample size is always a good thing. He simply hasn't been very good. Talk about cherry picking.

    Even going with his D-league statistics, he average 4.9 fouls per 36 minute (27 mpg, 3.5 are his actual numbers) rebounding and fouls are generally the most translatable stats (regardless of league) He is a still a very good rebounder.

    Though...

    Per 36 minutes

    1.5 asts, to 2.9 Turnovers
    1.3 blks to 4.9 fouls


    Offensively his game is only above average in the D-league.

    Neither of them seem to be the option at backup center. I wouldn't be mad if he proved me wrong, I just don't expect very much.

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    Thats because Baynes isn't De Colo (who plays virtually all of his minutes in garbabe time, thus the lowest amount of total minutes on the team)

    Baynes has played meaningful minutes starting usually the second quarters of games. He does play in garbage time, but he hasn't even impressed there. When he has gotten opportunity (I.E the @ GSW game when Splitter, & Ayers both got off to bad starts, Baynes came in and played even worse and Pop never back to him)

    Looking at 10 games for accurate statistics, instead of the 29 games he's appeared in.

    A larger sample size is always a good thing. He simply hasn't been very good. Talk about cherry picking.

    Even going with his D-league statistics, he average 4.9 fouls per 36 minute (27 mpg, 3.5 are his actual numbers) rebounding and fouls are generally the most translatable stats (regardless of league) He is a still a very good rebounder.

    Though...

    Per 36 minutes

    1.5 asts, to 2.9 Turnovers
    1.3 blks to 4.9 fouls


    Offensively his game is only above average in the D-league.

    Neither of them seem to be the option at backup center. I wouldn't be mad if he proved me wrong, I just don't expect very much.
    Again he has played meaningful minutes outside of garbage time 8 times this season well 9 if you want to count that Houston debacle. Yes he had a poor game in GS. In other such opportunities he has performed well.

    If you want to keep on including the other 80% of garbage time and ignore the control for meaningful minutes then so be it. Looks like you will control for only the GS game. Either way he has not had a chance to fail and if you want to count the most recent stint of steady playing time, he is doing okay. Much better than what you keep presenting.

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    Again he has played meaningful minutes outside of garbage time 8 times this season well 9 if you want to count that Houston debacle. Yes he had a poor game in GS. In other such opportunities he has performed well.

    If you want to keep on including the other 80% of garbage time and ignore the control for meaningful minutes then so be it. Looks like you will control for only the GS game. Either way he has not had a chance to fail and if you want to count the most recent stint of steady playing time, he is doing okay. Much better than what you keep presenting.
    I'm done arguing over him . I've made my case and stand by it, you did the same. We clearly aren't gonna convince each of anything.

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    Quite honestly

    I couldn't care less if Ayres gets PT in the RS. I would start to be worried if he gets plenty of PT in the playoffs. In end, we have seen this movie before. We discuss trades, players, scrubs for a long-time, but in the end we know that the main playoff rotation will be : Parker/Manu/Beli/Green/Leonard/Duncan/Diaw/Splitter PERIOD.

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    Boylen's supposed to be a specialist in developing bigs. I'm surprised someone with his experience(20 years as assistant coach) recommended Ayres to the club. He worked closely with Ayres in Indiana - he would know, better than anyone, about the flaws in his game.
    Boylen wears a OKC shirt under his suits. He will make the reveal in the playoffs when we lose.

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    people need to remember that ayres just replaced blair. yeah, it'd be nice if he was some great find, but don't forget the fact that he is probably at least as good as blair. that said, i wish we never lost dejuan and now that ayres flopped, i want blair back..... kinda

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    Ayers has gotten a legitimate 3+ month look and disappointed. Baynes has played more than 10 mins 8 times all season. 3 of those 8 have been in the last 5 games. In those 3 games he has had a block in each and 1.6 fouls to go along with 7 points 5 boards and an assist in 16 mins.

    Why on earth are you using Baynes' season of garbage time as the basis to judge him?
    +1

    7 footers like Baynes need minutes and reps to develop properly yet Baynes' minutes are rationed like a diabetic at a krispy kreme shop.

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    Baynes can't get meaningful minutes in 2+ years of being on the team yet random stinking ass scrubs like Ot o Jeffyrs can walk onto the team from the D league on a ty 10 day contract and immediately get regular rotation time. Something is definitely wrong there.

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