Beating a dead horse here, but the Spurs sorely need an intimidating shot blocker.

**Biernutz** · 02-01-2014

I hate to see the Indy put a guy on their team who could screw up their team chemistry. Indy is about
the only team in the east that the Heat know can take to them hard.....

**$pursDynasty** · 02-01-2014

to me a player can only affect chemistry is if you let them. A player who isn't the best on the team, isn't the highest paid or is necessary for the team to compete in no way can destroy chemistry. For 1 mil which is 1/2 of what we are paying Ayers, could destroy the chemistry with either the Pacers or the Spurs. It would be like worrying Nando's frustration with no playing time was hurting the team dynamic. They could say to Bynum just like they would say to Nando, STFU and go back to the end of the bench. Bynum at 1 million is the ultimate in low risk possibly high reward. Good for the Pacers wish we would have done it. The Pacers don't need Bynum to win it all but if only to keep him away from the Heat it was a good move.

**Biernutz** · 02-01-2014

Originally Posted by $pursDynasty

to me a player can only affect chemistry is if you let them. A player who isn't the best on the team, isn't the highest paid or is necessary for the team to compete in no way can destroy chemistry. For 1 mil which is 1/2 of what we are paying Ayers, could destroy the chemistry with either the Pacers or the Spurs. It would be like worrying Nando's frustration with no playing time was hurting the team dynamic. They could say to Bynum just like they would say to Nando, STFU and go back to the end of the bench. Bynum at 1 million is the ultimate in low risk possibly high reward. Good for the Pacers wish we would have done it. The Pacers don't need Bynum to win it all but if only to keep him away from the Heat it was a good move.

Bynum seems to be the guy you are talking about as the Philly said see you and the Cav's just said go away with the trade. Chicago
didn't want him around.....the guy has some history here.....

**xellos88330** · 02-01-2014

I understand the criticism about me saying that the Spurs don't have an intimidating shot blocker when the Spurs still have Duncan who is blocking his fair share of shots this season. Duncan is intimidating below the rim, but I did specify that the Spurs need someone who can block ABOVE the rim. How do you score on Tim Duncan? Shoot where he can't get to your shot. The Spurs consistently lose the aerial battle down low. It has been terribly evident with the defensive rebounding as well. The Spurs need to get above the damn rim otherwise risk constant offensive rebounds even after a good defensive possession. If you can block the shot, you could eliminate a couple of those rebounds because the paint will be that much more dangerous to take a shot in. It is easier to rebound from a jump shot when your bigs don't have to move off of their men.

**Biernutz** · 02-01-2014

Originally Posted by xellos88330

I understand the criticism about me saying that the Spurs don't have an intimidating shot blocker when the Spurs still have Duncan who is blocking his fair share of shots this season. Duncan is intimidating below the rim, but I did specify that the Spurs need someone who can block ABOVE the rim. How do you score on Tim Duncan? Shoot where he can't get to your shot. The Spurs consistently lose the aerial battle down low. It has been terribly evident with the defensive rebounding as well. The Spurs need to get above the damn rim otherwise risk constant offensive rebounds even after a good defensive possession. If you can block the shot, you could eliminate a couple of those rebounds because the paint will be that much more dangerous to take a shot in. It is easier to rebound from a jump shot when your bigs don't have to move off of their men.

What?

**cjw** · 02-01-2014

Originally Posted by Mugen

Not the problem tbh. As HH pointed out, the Spurs being minus their only two perimeter defenders is the reason why the defense is garbage at the moment. Duncan is already a top level shot blocker in the league, no real need for another one. Right now the team is just a flashback of the pre-Green/Leonard 2011 squad that couldn't stop anybody.

But but... I want a shot blocker who can throw the ball five rows into the stands so the other team can take possession back!

**Ice009** · 02-01-2014

Teams go into the paint at will against the Spurs. They're not scared at all.

None of you guys must remember DRob. David and Tim had players scared to go into the paint, making them take worse percentage outside shots, and when they did decide to go into the paint they altered their shots because of that intimidation. Don't tell me that, that kind of intimidation doesn't make a difference. Even if you do block the ball into the stands every now and then, and they get the ball back, it does make a difference.

**Biernutz** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by Ice009

Teams go into the paint at will against the Spurs. They're not scared at all.

None of you guys must remember DRob. David and Tim had players scared to go into the paint, making them take worse percentage outside shots, and when they did decide to go into the paint they altered their shots because of that intimidation. Don't tell me that, that kind of intimidation doesn't make a difference. Even if you do block the ball into the stands every now and then, and they get the ball back, it does make a difference.

Your right but with the new NBA putting a player on their butt is frowned on now. I agree that a message needs to be sent
every time you come down my lane......

**Splits** · 02-02-2014

Wow OP. You need to get some help. This is just stupid built on top of stupid.

Do you have a troll named Thunderup?

**TJastal** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by Spurs da champs

Athleticism is a problem, especially at the power forward position; Terrence Jones & Serge Ibaka kill the Spurs...I don't see the Spurs beating the Thunder & I'm not confident of their ability to take on the Rockets in the PO's, simply because those 2 just blow right by Tiago/Timmy.

The ing wizards just thumped those chumps playing Garret Temple a good chunk of the game. So it can be done.

**TJastal** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by Ice009

Teams go into the paint at will against the Spurs. They're not scared at all.

None of you guys must remember DRob. David and Tim had players scared to go into the paint, making them take worse percentage outside shots, and when they did decide to go into the paint they altered their shots because of that intimidation. Don't tell me that, that kind of intimidation doesn't make a difference. Even if you do block the ball into the stands every now and then, and they get the ball back, it does make a difference.

That's a great point. I'd like to see a study or something that proves this theory. Shot blockers make shooters nervous and cause them to rush shots so they affect a lot more shots than just the ones they get credit for "blocking".

**gnsf0946** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by TJastal

That's a great point. I'd like to see a study or something that proves this theory. Shot blockers make shooters nervous and cause them to rush shots so they affect a lot more shots than just the ones they get credit for "blocking".

This was very evident last year when Parker went against McGee, Denver tbh.

**Raven** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by TJastal

That's a great point. I'd like to see a study or something that proves this theory. Shot blockers make shooters nervous and cause them to rush shots so they affect a lot more shots than just the ones they get credit for "blocking".

they also foul a lot allowing them to get easy points from the ft.

**Raven** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by Biernutz

I read your take but are you saying a cancerous Spur dragging down the defense or did you mean something else?

yeah, that's what i meant.

**Raven** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by xellos88330

I understand the criticism about me saying that the Spurs don't have an intimidating shot blocker when the Spurs still have Duncan who is blocking his fair share of shots this season. Duncan is intimidating below the rim, but I did specify that the Spurs need someone who can block ABOVE the rim. How do you score on Tim Duncan? Shoot where he can't get to your shot. The Spurs consistently lose the aerial battle down low. It has been terribly evident with the defensive rebounding as well. The Spurs need to get above the damn rim otherwise risk constant offensive rebounds even after a good defensive possession. If you can block the shot, you could eliminate a couple of those rebounds because the paint will be that much more dangerous to take a shot in. It is easier to rebound from a jump shot when your bigs don't have to move off of their men.

i honestly have no idea what are you talking about.

**FireMicoHalili** · 02-02-2014

I think most of us have been beating that dead horse for years. FO did us fan service by signing Francisco Elson...

**xellos88330** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by Raven

i honestly have no idea what are you talking about.

The Spurs need someone who can challenge above the rim defensively. Duncan is great at blocking shots early in the opponents shooting motion, but he is having more difficulty than I have ever seen before getting to those little floaters or against an opponent who is capable of taking the game vertical. If the Spurs have someone challenging at not only the rim, but ABOVE the rim, those layups, floaters and simple switch layups become that much more difficult. It also makes the opponent player think twice about going into the paint because now the Spurs would have someone who could challenge them vertically.

Another problem with the Spurs' vertical game is that it is much more difficult to get defensive rebounds. I am tired of seeing the Spurs getting defensive rebounds tapped out simply because they cannot get high enough. The Spurs get great position, but still cannot compete and lose another possession because of the lack of vertical. If the opponents are forced to take more jumpers against an aggressive defending perimeter due to the new defensive threat above the rim the result would naturally be better contested jumpers and/or more predictable play from the opposing offense.

**Biernutz** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by Raven

yeah, that's what i meant.

Calling Tim a cancer is a bit harsh....Who will come to San Antonio for $10 mill and give us
the numbers that Tim puts up just about everytime he is on the court. Note** this is not
fantasy basket ball but the real world........Who?

**Raven** · 02-02-2014

Originally Posted by Biernutz

Calling Tim a cancer is a bit harsh....Who will come to San Antonio for $10 mill and give us
the numbers that Tim puts up just about everytime he is on the court. Note** this is not
fantasy basket ball but the real world........

actually belinelli is the cancer.