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  1. #51
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    Mike_Breshanan: Main Reason Lakers and Suns haven't agreed on Gasol trade: Lakers want better draft pick than Suns current position (17th overall)
    & Gambo AM/.620 is claiming they won't convey anything except that Indiana pick, projected at #30.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    & Gambo AM/.620 is claiming they won't convey anything except that Indiana pick, projected at #30.
    They shouldn't.

  3. #53
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    Oh, , you're still around. Christ, yesterday it was DUNCAN burying his bone in my ass, now you've been there all day today.

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    Oh, , you're still around. Christ, yesterday it was DUNCAN burying his bone in my ass, now you've been there all day today.
    Facts cully, no one should be trading any picks for Gasol, they really shouldn't be trading for him at all

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    Facts cully, no one should be trading any picks for Gasol, they really shouldn't be trading for him at all
    For the right situation he could be a sage...he'd be free of Kobe and motivated to prove his worth. He'd be ideal in San Antonio, but, they'd much rather cut off their nose to spite their face. OKC would be another who could benefit from Gasol. You just can't ride him. Maybe Memphis with his brother.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    For the right situation he could be a sage...he'd be free of Kobe and motivated to prove his worth. He'd be ideal in San Antonio, but, they'd much rather cut off their nose to spite their face. OKC would be another who could benefit from Gasol. You just can't ride him. Maybe Memphis with his brother.
    There is no reason to give up any assets being that he is a free agent in the summer and they could just sign him. All they need to do is just wait a few more months.

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    There is no reason to give up any assets being that he is a free agent in the summer and they could just sign him. All they need to do is just wait a few more months.
    Of course, but, then they don't get the 3 months when Pau is "supposedly" trying to earn his next contract, but, this supposed team is trying to get over the hump...Pau could help that goal. I don't think he'd transcend the Suns, but, he'd certainly cause the Spurs to realize an impact.

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    They shouldn't include a 1st at all.

    They don't need Gasol. He's a high-priced rental and the CAP relief to the Lakers in actual salary and future luxury savings is compensation enough for a disgruntled, oft-injured, 33-yo.

    Screw including 1sts for a has-been rental.

    Feels a little too Sarver like and too like like McDonough.

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    It's amazing how little people value Gasol. So now all of a sudden, he's not even worth a mid round pick? This is a guy whose putting up 20 an 10 and is possibly one of the best personality a locker room could have.



    Personally, I'd rather keep Gasol for cheap next year but he's not taking a massive pay cut. Lakers are not gaining anything by trading him for another expiring. There's a reason why Mitch hasn't traded him yet, they all see the tremendous value that comes with him.


    And Lakers are not trading him for cap relief

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    It's amazing how little people value Gasol. So now all of a sudden, he's not even worth a mid round pick? This is a guy whose putting up 20 an 10 and is possibly one of the best personality a locker room could have.



    Personally, I'd rather keep Gasol for cheap next year but he's not taking a massive pay cut. Lakers are not gaining anything by trading him for another expiring. There's a reason why Mitch hasn't traded him yet, they all see the tremendous value that comes with him.


    And Lakers are not trading him for cap relief
    No one is trading a first round pick, a high one at that, for a guy who could decide not to re-sign with his new team.

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    Pau for Okafor straight swap would be a fair deal to both teams, and it would be a lopsided one if any pick is involved. Phoenix want a serious playoff run this season and they wouldn't lose nothing (in terms of talent, not financially) to acquire Pau. Pau is unhappy in LA and is owed 19m by the rebuilding LA team, so it'd also be a good deal to LA when it would allow them to get rid such a player while saving a big amount of money estimated to be 15m something

    Although the pick to LA would make the trade look lopsided, it would still make sense. The Lakers got robbed in the Nash trade so its time for Phoenix to return the favor. NBA is a business after all, and that's why the Lockets should trade Asik to the Spurs for a low price (as a compensation for the Scola trade). Asik is being wasted on the bench anyway. But should ain't equal to "will" imho, especially when the Lockets are such an asshole franchise (based in the anus of this country)

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    Pau for Okafor straight swap would be a fair deal to both teams, and it would be a lopsided one if any pick is involved. Phoenix want a serious playoff run this season and they wouldn't lose nothing (in terms of talent, not financially) to acquire Pau. Pau is unhappy in LA and is owed 19m by the rebuilding LA team, so it'd also be a good deal to LA when it would allow them to get rid such a player while saving a big amount of money estimated to be 15m something

    Although the pick to LA would make the trade look lopsided, it would still make sense. The Lakers got robbed in the Nash trade so its time for Phoenix to return the favor. NBA is a business after all, and that's why the Lockets should trade Asik to the Spurs for a low price (as a compensation for the Scola trade). Asik is being wasted on the bench anyway. But should ain't equal to "will" imho, especially when the Lockets are such an asshole franchise (based in the anus of this country)
    Asik, tbh.

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    No one is trading a first round pick, a high one at that, for a guy who could decide not to re-sign with his new team.
    It's the cost of doing business in this league. Everyone takes risk, which includes drafting. 17th pick is not a high pick to begin with, assuming that's where their lottery ends. After the 12th, it's mostly a crap shoot, you get guys like Nash, Parker once in a blue moon but overall a lot of picks in that range have journeymen careers. Given the option, it's well worth the risk.


    It was said that Phoenix wanted Gasol to make a stronger playoff push. If that's true, they have an opportunity to demonstrate Phoenix is a franchise that will put him in the best position to end his career on a high note. Gasol would also have an opportunity to actually experience it first hand by finishing the season with the team. Phoenix appears to have great chemistry, has a world class medical staff and Hornacrk is doing great things there. That sells itself.

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    It's the cost of doing business in this league. Everyone takes risk, which includes drafting. 17th pick is not a high pick to begin with, assuming that's where their lottery ends. After the 12th, it's mostly a crap shoot, you get guys like Nash, Parker once in a blue moon but overall a lot of picks in that range have journeymen careers. Given the option, it's well worth the risk.


    It was said that Phoenix wanted Gasol to make a stronger playoff push. If that's true, they have an opportunity to demonstrate Phoenix is a franchise that will put him in the best position to end his career on a high note. Gasol would also have an opportunity to actually experience it first hand by finishing the season with the team. Phoenix appears to have great chemistry, has a world class medical staff and Hornacrk is doing great things there. That sells itself.
    But they operate from a sphere of fear. They always have. They're small-time here and move inch-by-inch. Now they're petrified of doing something "wrong" and ruining what they've accomplished thus far. They've accomplished nothing, but, they can't see that. People are talking about them and they're getting stroked and they don't want that [attention] to end. You don't get to O & 45 without a pathology that renders it so.

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    But they operate from a sphere of fear. They always have. They're small-time here and move inch-by-inch. Now they're petrified of doing something "wrong" and ruining what they've accomplished thus far. They've accomplished nothing, but, they can't see that. People are talking about them and they're getting stroked and they don't want that [attention] to end. You don't get to O & 45 without a pathology that renders it so.
    Precisely how they view the whole situation

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    My thinking is you don't give up a 1st and take on salary, and help the Lakers save money when acquired player is both 33+OftInjured+Bolting

    That's bull Sarver logic thinking there's no value late in drafts with the price.

    This version of Gasol isn't getting them over the hump.

    Build right. Stockpile 1sts, young players, CAP.

    Don't sacrifice the future on the altar of the immediate unless you are contending for a le.

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    I wish we could get his brother back, tbh...gonna need a defensive big to put next to Love in a year or two

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    I wish we could get his brother back, tbh...gonna need a defensive big to put next to Love in a year or two
    Does he have an opt out? (K.Love) Would think the Wolves would trade him before he walks.

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    Unless it's a sure thing:::like last June in South Miami the Suns won't move an inch in any direction until like WWIII.

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    My sources tell me that Lakers management is considering sending Gasol to Phoenix but not as part of any kind of deal with the Suns. Quite frankly they are sending him there to pick up Steve Nash's little brats in hopes that the point guard will flee to Canada.

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    5. Los Angeles Lakers | Status: Tanking | Record: 16-31 (0-2)


    The Lakers appear to be resigned to the idea that the lottery is the way for them to go right now. Yes, Kobe Bryant will be returning at some point, but they don't have to really help him. After several false alarms it appears that Pau Gasol is back on the table again. The Lakers' asking price is going down as they realize that removing Gasol alone might help them win a higher pick. Steve Nash is obviously available as well, but there aren't a lot of teams lining up to take on the last year and $9.7 million of his deal.


  23. #73
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    My sources tell me that Lakers management is considering sending Gasol to Phoenix but not as part of any kind of deal with the Suns. Quite frankly they are sending him there to pick up Steve Nash's little brats in hopes that the point guard will flee to Canada.
    I can't get mad at ya, Smitty. Without you it's 5-5 and Kobe has the bag. Instead?

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    the Suns won't move an inch in any direction until like WWIII.

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    Does he have an opt out? (K.Love) Would think the Wolves would trade him before he walks.
    They're gonna try to shop him next year but it's a moot point...he wants to be back in LA. He'll be our 4 for the 15-16 season going forward.

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