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^Damn, Killa committing an intentional killin'.
I call bull . Cavs were good because LeBron is a beast and a great team-mate but his leadership is overrated. Much like Kobe and Shaq he needed a hof coach to take on much of the leadership ...
And even Tim doesn't have 4 without pop .. buy maybe pop cost him 5 ...
^Damn, Killa committing an intentional killin'.
Who was the white assistant that you guys were crediting for his success?
What success?
I dont think people criticized him for leaving the franchise as much as the way he did it and the fact he had to team up with his rival to win rings. It's no different than MJ reaching out to Clyde Drexler after going winless for 7 years and asking him for his help. It's never been done before, to be fair, he's a trend setter now.People thinking LeBron's ever going back to that dump
Whether you like it or not, The Decision was the worst ing idea of all time. Oh but but it was for the children :'( ' ' ' ' ' '
^There was the charter "decision" when Magic made it a point to run Westhead off and take command there. At that point Media had a choice:::do the right thing, the tried & true and side the organization. Media did not. The vast lion's share of Media's response was abject silence as Westhead was lynched. When it "worked" they championed Magic after the fact and the template had been struck. When you cross a line like that (like Roe V. Wade in '71) you can never go back.
And we never have.
Brown proved his total lack of leadership, even during the Lebron Cavs days. The only reason the Cavs didn't implode as spectacularly as it should was because of Lebron. Other than the Delonte West spectacle (and a spectacle that was), the Cavs achieved what they were capable of, and in some ways, more than they should be capable of.
Since Cleveland, Brown lasted less than a season with the Lakers before mutiny cost him his job, and has now totally lost control of the players in Cleveland. If it wasn't Lebron, who was filling that void back in the day? Varaejo? Ilgauskas?
In Miami, Spoelstra never struck anyone as a larger than life coach, like Riley, Daly, Jackson, or Pop, and yet the team won 2 championships in three tries, and Lebron was a huge part of that leadership equation. Was he the sole source? No, players like Wade and Battier surely pulled their share, but Lebron is obviously the biggest.
, piggybacking on somebody else's even though the argument is pure speculation because I have been neutering you like the chicken you are.
Chicken .
Revisionist history again. The media crucified Magic and painted him to be a diva coach killer. His 1984 finals performance piled on his then negative reputation, and got his Tragic Johnson moniker. That was the only year Magic was not on the All-NBA team 1st team in his career (other than 1996 comeback year). it was also the only year other than his rookie year and the comeback year that he didn't finish top 3 in MVP voting. In fact, that year, Magic didn't even START the all star game due to fan backlash (from media).
The Paul Westhead incident was worse than Kobe's rape allegations (not a surprise since it affected a man rather than a woman, and we know the moral compass of an average Lakers fan).
Gotcha!
Chicken .
Riles is the leader, both Spo and Lebron are riding his coat-tails from that (leadership) perspective. Dont get me wrong I think Lebron has grown as leader the past two seasons ... but he wasnt a great leader in cleveland and as amazing as he was as a player it showed in his team's playoff failures. The Finals loss to Dallas helped tremendously.But I dont think he was all that great a leader for the Cavs, WOjo write an article that showed what a poor leader he was that time ... I am too lazy to look it up. Lebron was just THAT good as a player. I have done nothing but praise him on the court and I think he still has GOAT potential ...but the overrating of Lebron has reached Manningesque levels. Both players are great enough on their own merits we dont have to point to some magical leadership skills bull credit that both get. They are both great, both in the GOAT convo but yall need to stop.
Riley certain had his hand in the leadership department, but the man doesn't go into the locker room every game, go to practice every day, get on the team bus/plane, and go on road trips with the team. Lebron is the de facto leader on that team, shared with Wade and respected vets like Battier, and maybe Allen.
With the Cavs, Lebron led by his immense talent and not being a poisonous snake in the locker room. Was he a great leader? Most definitely not, but he was great enough to not have his teammates hold a mutiny and kick Brown out.
The Decision was badass, tbh.... every hater tuned in to see LeBron and then get all butthurt when he didn't pick their team
Seriously one of the most epic trolljobs in sports history
The only way it would have been better is if he "took his talents" to the Clippers instead of Miami, tbh
No, it was -made.The Decision was badass, tbh.... every hater tuned in to see LeBron and then get all butthurt when he didn't pick their team
Seriously one of the most epic trolljobs in sports history
The only way it would have been better is if he "took his talents" to the Clippers instead of Miami, tbh
Team leader Lebron...
Definitely made, tho, Clipper Nation probably appreciated it since he was one of the children in the audience at the time.
made is trying to get all your teammates traded because you can't adjust your game.
made? No, this was made:
what about his epic pre game speeches...."yo, my reputation is on the line, all us z gotta diez for something, y'all feel me, i got corporationz breathing down my nek yo."Team leader Lebron...
and lol at Clipper Nation trying to defend the Decision. Not as bad as Kobe, but still one of the worst PR moves in the history of sports.
Kobe is a little too. Im not defending that . To me, Kobe is one of the GOAT when it came to physical abilities and high IQ playing UNDER Phil Jackson. As far as a leader hes horrible.
Not really. People were going to hate him for leaving Cleveland anyway. It's the social media age, doing it on tv was brilliant and unprecedented.
Though he led Artest to it--then made him.
Though I prefer this version (LOL @0:55)
Plus he had the balls to do it directly.... not talking through an agent, not pulling the Kirby route and throwing games and talking about his teammates behind their backs....
MVPau led both of themPERIOD
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