Creationism vs Evolution live debate tonight

[baseline bum]

Nope. Scientific theory is not a guess, it is backed up by evidence and tests. Gravity is a theory too, you really gonna jump off a building and think you're gonna fly because it's only a "theory?" go look up the cosmic microwave background and the viewing of light from billions of light years away, there's a lot more evidence of the big bang then for god, which is none

Cosmological redshift too son. RIP conservation of energy.

[pgardn]

The Riverside Church


January 19, 1936


My dear Dr. Einstein,


We have brought up the question: Do scientists pray? in our Sunday school class. It began by asking whether we could believe in both science and religion. We are writing to scientists and other important men, to try and have our own question answered.


We will feel greatly honored if you will answer our question: Do scientists pray, and what do they pray for?


We are in the sixth grade, Miss Ellis's class.


Respectfully yours,


Phyllis


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January 24, 1936


Dear Phyllis,


I will attempt to reply to your question as simply as I can. Here is my answer:


Scientists believe that every occurrence, including the affairs of human beings, is due to the laws of nature. Therefore a scientist cannot be inclined to believe that the course of events can be influenced by prayer, that is, by a supernaturally manifested wish.


However, we must concede that our actual knowledge of these forces is imperfect, so that in the end the belief in the existence of a final, ultimate spirit rests on a kind of faith. Such belief remains widespread even with the current achievements in science.


But also, everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, one that is vastly superior to that of man. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is surely quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.


With cordial greetings,


your A. Einstein

So continuing in this same vein Phyllis, I highly doubt evolution is goal directed, and that the penultimate outcome is man. But I certainly could be wrong.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Wow, N0 LyF3 ScRuB is a ing idiot. He's using the same old, tired, ignorant responses that theist apologists have been using for years. He first stupidly asks where the evidence for evolution is, as if he is incapable of using Google for five seconds. Then he completely changes the topic to abiogenesis and The Big Bang, as if those two are somehow synonymous with evolution. Then he uses the idiotic "The Big Bang is just a theory" excuse that many theists who have no understanding of what "scientific theory" actually means usually use.

And robdiaz is a moron. Nobody should take him seriously after his absolutely pathetic performance in previous evolution threads. This guy knows absolute about evolution, yet tries to talk about it. The worst part isn't him being an wilfully ignorant moron; it's his complete unwillingness to even try to defend his belief in an invisible sky daddeh. He'll throw around emoticon after emoticon when other people actually defend something he disagrees with, but when pressed to explain what he believes and why, he changes the topic.

[baseline bum]

Wow, is this debate really 2 hours, 45 minutes long like the video link from the npr page says? Bill should have had this won 5 minutes in.

[DMC]

Creationism, a euphemism for stupidity imo, is nothing but a gimmick to get people like Ham money from the woefully ignorant hordes.

[baseline bum]

CROFL this creationist really just said you can't observe the past while showing a graphic of the Big Bang and the development to galaxies and ?

What the does he think you're doing when you look up at Orion in the night sky?

[SupremeGuy]

God, you're so stupid if you don't believe in evolution. Pun intended.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Anyone that disagrees with my opinion is an idiot

[SupremeGuy]

Both hardline theists and atheists are assholes. Agnosticism is where it's at, tbh.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Both hardline theists and atheists are assholes. Agnosticism is where it's at, tbh.

Are you an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist?

[Leetonidas]

Both hardline theists and atheists are assholes. Agnosticism is where it's at, tbh.

non-committal I see

[Blake]

See that sculpture, which seems more logical, that it created itself from a pile of rocks or that it was created by a sculptor?

So keeping with that logic, who created God?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

So keeping with that logic, who created God?

Who created the world?

[SupremeGuy]

non-committal I see

I'm committed to wanting evidence before I make a decision.

[Blake]

Who created the world?

We're assuming God did.

Don't be a pussy here. Answer my question.

[RD2191]

LOL Blake calling another man a pussy. How's your wife? tbh

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

We're assuming God did.

Don't be a pussy here. Answer my question.

No one created God. God doesn't have siblings, parents, etc. God is where it all begins.

[RD2191]

Woo Bum-kon, its like clockwork, asshurt atheist.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Excellent, insightful rebuttal by robdiaz. I expect nothing less. The only thing missing is an emoticon.

I'm committed to wanting evidence before I make a decision.

Are you an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist?

[Woo Bum-kon]

No one created God. God doesn't have siblings, parents, etc. God is where it all begins.

Why can't one just replace "God" with "the universe" in your explanation?

[pgardn]

Who created the world?

Who or... what do we think using observable phenomena?

Its up to you, to assign a who. A God or Gods...? What?


BTW

Your theory on how the diversity of life we see on this planet came to be? Since it's clearly not evolution for you.
The board continues to ponder your silence. Give it up. Please.

[Blake]

No one created God. God doesn't have siblings, parents, etc. God is where it all begins.

that contradicts the robdiaz logic of the sculpture

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Who or... what do we think using observable phenomena?

Its up to you, to assign a who. A God or Gods...? What?


BTW

Your theory on how the diversity of life we see on this planet came to be? Since it's clearly not evolution for you.
The board continues to ponder your silence. Give it up. Please.

Ponder my silence? , I've been taking biology courses for 3 years now. I know all about evolution, it's theories, and also what the supposed theories are and actual facts are regarding animals and the point of where they began to exist - or at least what is known this far.

Just because I refuse to argue about pointless bull that's not gonna alter your opinion on a message board does not mean I am uneducated or am unknowledgable on the subject.

That's the problem with atheists. Just because we don't believe in what you do we are 'stupid', 'ignorant', etc.

[Two10Whitey]

It's annoying when religious folks expect a rational person to answer impossible questions. Science doesn't have a clear answer to how we got here but at least they're trying to find it. People of faith are fine with their immature storybook answers and are too lazy and brainwashed to do their own research. Sin 6 days a week and learn the "truth" on Sunday.

[Chinook]

The debate is stupid because no one ever asks the right question. Also because creationists tend to be stupid and think they have to defend religion for some reason, a evolutionists have to be disingenuous and concatenate evolution as a process and Evolution as an "atheist" theory.