Creationism vs Evolution live debate tonight

[elege]

Why do people care about this ? I mean this is like people ing about abortion or gay marriage. Just agree to disagree and move on. Does anyone really know how old the Earth is? Can you definitively say what happens when you die and whether or not you go anywhere when you die? And what about alien life? Maybe some questions are just meant to stay questions.

People care because it affects public policy. Just look at this trailer for this do entary.

[Jacob1983]

Well, I was brainwashed with Christianity as a child but as I've gotten older, I've been highly opened to possibilities. I think the Earth is probably really old. I can't say for sure how old but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a billion years old. I also can see how birds are descendants of dinosaurs. I don't think humans came from monkeys mainly because humans have abstract thought and pure dominance over all creatures on Earth. Some people can laugh at me or whatever but that's how I see it. I think alien life is highly possible too. There is no way that humans built the pyramids in Egypt by themselves.

[ChumpDumper]

To annoy you, dumper. To annoy you.

It's actually entertaining watching you contradict yourself like most creationists.

[Chinook]

People care because it affects public policy. Just look at this trailer for this do entary.

You just said what I was trying to say, but smarter. Props.

[Jacob1983]

I don't consider myself a definitive creationist but you are allowed to think that if you choose to do so, dumper. I will continue to annoy you too.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't consider myself a definitive creationist but you are allowed to think that if you choose to do so, dumper. I will continue to annoy you too.

Keep entertaining me by contradicting yourself like you are right now.

[ChumpDumper]

Hm. Maybe she should have led with the cancer story.

[Jacob1983]

Whatever you say, dumper. Whatever you say.

[Rogue]

I think the government's recent acknowledgement of the existence of "area 51" already gave enough evidence to turn the possibility of alien life into certainty, imho.

[DMC]

And you do? LOL, just because you have some sort of degree makes you an expert on the subject? Have you ever observed evolution in the lab or anywhere for that matter?

Yes and yes

[DMC]

Why do people care about this ? I mean this is like people ing about abortion or gay marriage. Just agree to disagree and move on. Does anyone really know how old the Earth is? Can you definitively say what happens when you die and whether or not you go anywhere when you die? And what about alien life? Maybe some questions are just meant to stay questions.

^Liberal Arts degree at work

[DMC]

Ponder my silence? , I've been taking biology courses for 3 years now. I know all about evolution, it's theories, and also what the supposed theories are and actual facts are regarding animals and the point of where they began to exist - or at least what is known this far.

Just because I refuse to argue about pointless bull that's not gonna alter your opinion on a message board does not mean I am uneducated or am unknowledgable on the subject.

That's the problem with atheists. Just because we don't believe in what you do we are 'stupid', 'ignorant', etc.

3rd year biology student differentiating "theories" and "facts" per the usual.

[Woo Bum-kon]

He's been taking biology courses for three years. He knows all there is to know about The Theory of Evolution Through Natural Selection, except for the fact that it is not also called The Big Bang Theory. He seems to think these theories are the same thing for reasons unknown to me.

[I. Hustle]

So did someone win? Are the Christians all Evolutionists now? Or did the other side win and new churches are popping up everywhere?

WHAT?! Nobody won??!! Everything is EXACTLY the same??!!

[leemajors]

Hm. Maybe she should have led with the cancer story.

so did he create English

[Blake]

So did someone win? Are the Christians all Evolutionists now? Or did the other side win and new churches are popping up everywhere?

WHAT?! Nobody won??!! Everything is EXACTLY the same??!!

Yeah, it's a shame this is even up for a debate.

I'm betting other countries are laughing at us

[mouse]

This would have been a good time to introduce Alternative Design.
People need to know it's not just always Pepsi or Coke, you can have a Sprite.
I need to make sure I attended the next debate.

[Rogue]

Ponder my silence? , I've been taking biology courses for 3 years now. I know all about evolution, it's theories, and also what the supposed theories are and actual facts are regarding animals and the point of where they began to exist - or at least what is known this far.

Just because I refuse to argue about pointless bull that's not gonna alter your opinion on a message board does not mean I am uneducated or am unknowledgable on the subject.

That's the problem with atheists. Just because we don't believe in what you do we are 'stupid', 'ignorant', etc.

though your only interest is in feline science...

[Leetonidas]

Feline biology courses

[I. Hustle]

Yeah, it's a shame this is even up for a debate.

I'm betting other countries are laughing at us

Like which ones? The communist countries or the Muslim dominated ones?

[pgardn]

Scientist are aboustely delusional.

Caldistics being a study of Characteristics can not be sufficient..There is abosutely no way to connect to DNA's without having the DNA of the so called "Ancestor".

A scientist can and will make the mistake of considering red pandas as Racoon ancestors if red pandas ever lived a billion years ago..

Not enough Chinook.

We will always make mistakes and redo relationships. The horseshoe crab is another example we made a mistake on.

You do not understand science. It changes models as new evidence arises. We attempt to get things right so as to be predictive. We will never fully understand everything.

So give us your theory of how the great diversity of life we see today on the earth arose? If scientists are delusional, and you have the keys give it up and answer the question. Then after you deposit your new theory be prepared to take a thorough beat down. Or be prepared to get published. You could become famous.

Go.

[pgardn]

Yes. Every living thing on Earth has been evolving for the exact same amount of time.

But not at the same rates as generation times differ between species. And changes in DNA that are enough to lead to speciation is another topic along this line.

This is another reason to like this stuff. It's fascinating.

[Blake]

64 minutes. Nye says “traditional fish sex” and grabs everyone’s attention. Traditional fish sex is different from the sex that fish have with themselves, he is explaining (and not yet explaining why this is relevant to his point). Nye is now asking: “Why does anybody have sex?” Why don’t humans just make like a rosebush and produce a flower? Or divide like bacteria? How sexy. Nye calls that question a real “chinstroker.” The twitterverse is already talking about “fishionary” position. But never fear! Evolution has the answer: species that reproduce sexually have fewer parasites. How about that for motivation to get it on.

http://swampland.time.com/2014/02/05...en-ham-debate/

Lmao fishionary

[pgardn]

Cladiastics used to be based on phyiscal characteristics, but now genetic characteristics. And it's actually pretty easy to tell the age of a gene reliably by looking at its radiation.

Anyway, you continue to misunderstand how evolution is supported. And until you actually take a comparative anatomy class, you'll continue to not understand. Things aren't considered ancestors simply because their older. It's because of how similarities and differences are. Even if people get it wrong at times, the method s still strong. Even if a time-warped raccoon fossil were discovered and labeled a red panda ancestor, that wouldn't prevent the fact that the red panda ancestor likely looked like both a racoon and red panda.

Comparative anatomy is just one of many lines of evidence. You find it very powerful as do I. The neat thing is that so many different fields from physiology, to how species arise, only make sense in the light of evolution. People studying biological phenomena which had nothing to do with evolution bumbled upon it. This is what has made evolution and the mechanisms that drive it so powerful. Not just comparative anatomy or DNA.

People who really like this stuff need to read Stephen Jay Goulds series of essays in Natural History. The Pandas Thumb, Hens Teeth and Horses Toes, there are a number of other compilations of these essays. One will also find he was wrong with a number of his projections, which again is beautiful and shows how science continually allows for corrections.

[pgardn]

Like which ones? The communist countries or the Muslim dominated ones?

Mostly Western Europe. The Economists just had an article trying to explain why Americans hold on to creationism so furiously in a January issue. It's a British magazine.