Creationism vs Evolution live debate tonight

[pgardn]

Typical meltdown/cop out reaction when the many flaws in Science and Evolution are exposed.

In desperate means they pull out the math card or mention gravity and chemistry.

They want to prove so badly how important Science is but what they fail to resilize is Scinence needs to not go into the "what if" world. Stick with mixing baking soda with viniger and stay out of the how and why man is here.

And another thing I find disturbing all you that say Svience is always learning and finding out more about man and life on earth need to reilize the text books in school already have it as "facts" man evolved from a fish so stop your bull lies and support evolution 100% or STFU.

Unless your not sure then that makes it a religion and it doesn't need to be in the text books.

Why man is here? Science attempts to answer WHY man is here... Slam a pie in your face.
Every course is religion if it's based on belief fck .

All land vertebrates are thought to have evolved from a common ancestor. We believe this, yes. When evidence is found to the contrary, and thoroughly analyzed, we change our beliefs. That's how Science works. Something you refuse to understand because you can't handle the implications for man. I can't help you with your problem mouse. It's up to you to determine how you have faith in order to believe something.

[I. Hustle]

If he rewards you with a better life than your Earth one that really isn't saying much though, correct son?

I can't even help you with that one, son! lol

[I. Hustle]

Every course is religion if it's based on belief fck .

BAM /thread

[pgardn]

So religion is based on a belief of higher power(s) and people claim to have experienced miracles and historically there is evidence that religious figures did exist but because you and others don't agree with it then it's ridiculous and those people are ignorant.

On the other hand "So don't teach something because the background is not intimately known.
To with math. Zero and infinity are too strange to teach. Just lop them off." is a quote in favor of evolution over creationism.


Both people arguing sound exactly the same. You are a prime example of it.

Where did a say in any of my posts religion was ridiculous. Go back and read. Find the quote, and show all of us.

[Blake]

Sounds like a religion.

Sounds like religion

Science is open to new ideas. Religion is closed.

Psalm 104:
5*He set the earth*on its foundations;*it can never be moved.

You guys are idiots, tbh.

[pgardn]

BAM /thread

Religious beliefs and beliefs in science are both beliefs.

But what are the beliefs BASED on? Do you know that they are based on entirely different methods? Both are useful to man for entirely different reasons. So if we chose to label a belief in anything and call it religion, that's fine. Just realize the two try to answer entirely different questions using entirely different methods. But yes, both involve belief.

I really don't care what you choose to call it as long as you recognize the difference. We will have to make up another name for religious methods though.

We all have faith in certain phenomena and historical events based on faith and belief. But the methods we use to come to our belief system may be entirely different.

Next.

[I. Hustle]

Where did a say in any of my posts religion was ridiculous. Go back and read. Find the quote, and show all of us.

Honestly I'll give you that one because I am not going to go back through all that. Maybe I'm guilty of the if you are against creationism and pro evolution then you must be anti-religion so to that I will concede.

[I. Hustle]

Religious beliefs and beliefs in science are both beliefs.

But what are the beliefs BASED on? Do you know that they are based on entirely different methods? Both are useful to man for entirely different reasons. So if we chose to label a belief in anything and call it religion, that's fine. Just realize the two try to answer entirely different questions using entirely different methods. But yes, both involve belief.

I really don't care what you choose to call it as long as you recognize the difference. We will have to make up another name for religious methods though.

We all have faith in certain phenomena and historical events based on faith and belief. But the methods we use to come to our belief system may be entirely different.

Next.

Nothing. I actually agree with that. There is no argument from me there.

[pgardn]

Typical immature response. That is why you will always be on the outside looking in on those who actually research and are qualified to have intelligent debates.

I think the board has read most of your intelligent debates. You judging what research to use and what is intelligent...

You have made your mark. Let others be the judge.

[I. Hustle]

Science is open to new ideas. Religion is closed.

Psalm 104:
5*He set the earth*on its foundations;*it can never be moved.

You guys are idiots, tbh.

So you used the Psalms that were written by David as your quote? Have you ever read the whole thing? Do you know what a Psalm is?

LOL but we are the idiots. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other things that you could have used LOL

[pgardn]

Nothing. I actually agree with that. There is no argument from me there.

Because it's perfectly reasonable.

Now go back and explain why you don't want Science taught in schools.

[mouse]

Science is open to new ideas. Religion is closed.

Psalm 104:
5*He set the earth*on its foundations;*it can never be moved.

Post the quote where I support religion.

You guys are idiots,

Hence why I don't debate the immature.

[pgardn]

And a repeat.

Sorry, but there is huge unity, yet diversity, that evolution through natural selection and other means explains very well. Much better than the behavior of the most fundamental particles that everything in the universe is composed of, particle physics... People should really be upset about quantum mechanics, but because it does not say much about humans on a broad scale, they could give a . So we pick what we don't want to believe based on its implications for us. Fine, let's not argue about the Higgs field, something much more worthwhile.


And if one does not like the idea of populations changing through time, then give us something else.


I have never proclaimed to be smart, you did. I am very interested, and unafraid of rocking my world views when my common sense suggests it.

And please make the something else use methods of science in a science class.

[Blake]

So you used the Psalms that were written by David as your quote? Have you ever read the whole thing? Do you know what a Psalm is?

LOL but we are the idiots. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other things that you could have used LOL

it's an example of how religion is closed.

lol yes, you're the idiots.

[Blake]

Post the quote where I support religion.




Hence why I don't debate the immature.

I didn't say you supported it. I responded to where you implied it's like science.

You're stupid. It's why I don't debate with you.

[pgardn]

Honestly I'll give you that one because I am not going to go back through all that. Maybe I'm guilty of the if you are against creationism and pro evolution then you must be anti-religion so to that I will concede.

I am totally against creationism taught in SCIENCE classrooms because, it's NOT science.

Capiche?

[mouse]

I think the board has read most of your intelligent debates.

So then how did you miss them?

Get one thing straight I don't and never did seek out acceptance by a message board my replies are all over the www and to be honest 90% of the Club posters arn't even worth my time ( you included) my replies are for the 10% readers online who may find this subject on Google,

You judging what research to use and what is intelligent...

Feel free to debunk my findings.

You have made your mark. Let others be the judge.

Just as I have since 1979 when I first used wireless messaging.

[mouse]

I am totally against creationism taught in SCIENCE classrooms because, it's NOT science.?

Neither is Evolution.

[mouse]

And a repeat.

Sorry, but there is huge unity, yet diversity, that evolution through natural selection and other means explains very well. Much better than the behavior of the most fundamental particles that everything in the universe is composed of, particle physics... People should really be upset about quantum mechanics, but because it does not say much about humans on a broad scale, they could give a . So we pick what we don't want to believe based on its implications for us. Fine, let's not argue about the Higgs field, something much more worthwhile.


And if one does not like the idea of populations changing through time, then give us something else.

I have never proclaimed to be smart, you did. I am very interested, and unafraid of rocking my world views when my common sense suggests it.

And please make the something else use methods of science in a science class.

Had to quote this so I can reply to it after work.

[pgardn]

Neither is Evolution.

Dead wrong.
End debate with mouse.

[mouse]

Dead wrong.
End debate with mouse.

Your so over your head and circling the drain I almost feel sorry for you.

Just for s and giggles how old are you?

[I. Hustle]

it's an example of how religion is closed.

lol yes, you're the idiots.

So a Psalm of David is an example of how religion is closed? LOL ok, moron.

[I. Hustle]

Because it's perfectly reasonable.

Now go back and explain why you don't want Science taught in schools.

The point that I am trying to get across is that evolution is a belief based on fragmants of evidence. Like, I found this tooth and as a result I built a whole skeleton of a "missing link" to support my theories.

I am fine with it being taught as "It is believed that..." as opposed to "This is the way it is."

CapiSCE?

[AntiChrist]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christ...b_4731944.html

[Blake]

So a Psalm of David is an example of how religion is closed? LOL ok, moron.

It's the ordained word of God or it's not. Lol logic.