SEC Set To Have The Best Recuting Haul Ever

[yavozerb]

Google what IIRC means. Well, let's see. Trey Williams was the only 5 star on our roster last year as far as I can recall. RSJ was right there. RSJ got hurt and trey, when he got touches, was incredible. 5 stars are statistically more likely to be better by a good margin since they are so selective about handing them out. It's pretty simple, actually. If you want to play the pick and choose game, what about Julio jones? Jameis Winston? We can do this all day.

So RSJ was better than Evans? So Trey was better than Tra Carson (stats are almost identical). Your right, I could this all day, esp. with ATM. Not sure why you are taking this so personal, the fact is that a low % of 5 star football players live up to the hype. Not saying if I was a coach of a major program I would refuse these kids, just saying alot of these kids are no better than 3 star players who have not gotten the hype.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

NC State picked up the most recruits this year (31) and is in the top 30 in recruiting. yeah!

[the chronic]

IIRC the odds of a 5 star panning out to a 3 star is about 3 times as high.

There has been statistical analysis done to validate this point over and over, yet everybody seems to keep bringing up the 3* players like RGIII, Colt or Manziel to say stars are pointless.

For any given year there are only ~20 guys that are 5* players and hundreds and hundreds of 3* guys. So to point out more 3* players are successful doesn't invalidate the point that a 5* player is more likely to be successful.

From going to countless camps and recruiting events, I can say the difference between a top 5 national recruit and #50 recruit is significant. But the difference between #50 and 250 is subjective.

[the chronic]

So RSJ was better than Evans? So Trey was better than Tra Carson (stats are almost identical). Your right, I could this all day, esp. with ATM. Not sure why you are taking this so personal, the fact is that a low % of 5 star football players live up to the hype. Not saying if I was a coach of a major program I would refuse these kids, just saying alot of these kids are no better than 3 star players who have not gotten the hype.

None of this changes the fact a top national prospect is much more probable to be a difference maker for a program. Hypothetically, if a 5* is 33% chance to be all-american and a 3* is 5% to be all-american, what does it prove to bring up the 67% of 5* players that were not college stars or the 5% of 3* players that were?

[Vito Corleone]

If you look at what rivals defines as a 5 star, its not really about the end product, it's about when they can contribute. A 5 star guy is a kid that can come in and immediately play. A three star guy is someone that should be able to contribute by his junior year.

This is actually a big reason I'm less concerned about this class, Texas doesn't need immediate help, it needs help two or three years down the road. Right now the only places Texas is thin is QB and DE, maybe RB.

[Blake]

If you look at what rivals defines as a 5 star, its not really about the end product, it's about when they can contribute. A 5 star guy is a kid that can come in and immediately play.

6.1*Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect


http://www.rivals.com/aboutrankings.asp?Sport=1

Lol ass talk

[FkLA]

Yeah, as soon as I read that I was like wtf is he talking about tbh.

[Vito Corleone]

They changed it, when I was a member they held that being a 5-star meant when a guy would contribute.

The definition you show now, works very much against their rating system as on average only 35% of the 5-star prospects pan out to fit this definition.

[Sisk]

There has been statistical analysis done to validate this point over and over, yet everybody seems to keep bringing up the 3* players like RGIII, Colt or Manziel to say stars are pointless.

For any given year there are only ~20 guys that are 5* players and hundreds and hundreds of 3* guys. So to point out more 3* players are successful doesn't invalidate the point that a 5* player is more likely to be successful.

From going to countless camps and recruiting events, I can say the difference between a top 5 national recruit and #50 recruit is significant. But the difference between #50 and 250 is subjective.

Agree 100%. The basic math is what I was referencing when I said "It's pretty simple, actually." but didn't feel like typing that out.

[The Gemini Method]

USC is stizzacked! Adorer and JuJu!

[Blake]

They changed it

Sure they did

[Whisky Dog]

UT is very very thin at CB too

[Avante]

I'm a USC fan but there is no conference that compares to the SEC. Watch as at least two SEC schools make the final four in the le tourney. It's their depth of big fast athletes that seperates them from everyone else. And they just keep coming.

[Vito Corleone]

Sure they did

I see my little is still trying to bite my ankles.

[Biernutz]

With Johnny football leaving you would think A&m would have a bit of a drop of in recruiting but just the opposite has happened.
I think it is all the TV time the SEC gets. The SEC is so hot right now and A&M is just perfect placed for Texas and surrounding states
high school players to come to. A&M did the right thing to go SEC.

[Vito Corleone]

With Johnny football leaving you would think A&m would have a bit of a drop of in recruiting but just the opposite has happened.
I think it is all the TV time the SEC gets. The SEC is so hot right now and A&M is just perfect placed for Texas and surrounding states
high school players to come to. A&M did the right thing to go SEC.

Same thing happened to Texas when Mack Brown arrived. Ricky wins the Heisman and it created a real buzz about the program. It lasted about 4 seasons for Texas but only because it took Aggsy that long to fire RC.

But during that time lots of kids signed on because of the promise of early playing time. It was a perfect storm because Mack made it very exclusive to get a offer from Texas. I remember Roy Williams talking about how the guys with a Texas offer were looked at as elite.

Ags are in the middle of a little run like this, but to keep it up for more than a couple of seasons they have to win, that's the big difference Texas did win and did a fantastic job of winning. Mack won 9 or more games every year from 1998 to 2010.

I still see the Ags only winning 6 games next year, I'm hoping it will slow them down and allow Texas to catchup.