Creationism vs Evolution live debate tonight

[DMC]

our concept of time. Who knows how far everything actually goes back. Not just the earth but everything.

You're trying to separate time from itself. Time goes back to the beginning of time, which means time always was. No you could not venture to that point because that point doesn't exist and never did. There was never a time where time did not exist.

[I. Hustle]

You're trying to separate time from itself. Time goes back to the beginning of time, which means time always was. No you could not venture to that point because that point doesn't exist and never did. There was never a time where time did not exist.

Wait. Are you arguing with me or for me?

[Blake]

LOL

It was just an example. Do I believe that fossils have been found that are human like? Yes. Does that automatically mean that it wasn't just a species or type of animal that lived once and died out? Could it be someone that suffered from a deformity or arthritis? Are these things possible?
I am asking you seriously because parts of me want to believe that you are somewhat knowledgeable and not just a "LOL look at Psalms" guy like BLake.

Theret is obviously a load of research on evolution out there on the internets. You're just too lazy to go read it.

And the notion that "intelligent design" should be viewed as science has been struck down in court in humiliating fashion.

There's nothing here for me to debate with you any more than there was between Nye and Ham. Just lots of lols and smhs at your ignorance.

[DMC]

Wait. Are you arguing with me or for me?

Neither. I'm trying to get you to ask the right questions.

[xmas1997]

Neither. I'm trying to get you to ask the right questions.

Like Blake?

[Blake]

Aren't there are lot of hypotheses involved in all of this ? I mean scientists cannot definitively tell us how big dinosaurs were or what they looked like. They just base that off bones.

http://m.target.com/p/poof-slinky-sc...2?richrel=true

[Blake]

Like Blake?

Wut

[xmas1997]

Wut

Precisely.

[DMC]

Like Blake?

You probably should not be discussing this. It might shake the foundation of your world view that a dude became himself, killed himself and subsequently rejoined himself all for us, whom he created like himself so we could be with him but only because we wanted to.

[xmas1997]

You probably should not be discussing this. It might shake the foundation of your world view that a dude became himself, killed himself and subsequently rejoined himself all for us, whom he created like himself so we could be with him but only because we wanted to.

Blake Almighty?

[Jacob1983]

I am en led to my opinion but to be honest, I have more important things to worry about than what the happened on Earth billions and billons of years ago. I don't give a what happened. I wasn't there so it doesn't affect me. Now if there was some type of chance I could get money out of this , then yeah I'd obviously give a true but there's not so there we are.

[Blake]

Precisely.

You're an idiot.

[Blake]

I have more important things to worry about than what the happened on Earth billions and billons of years ago.

Yeah, those dressing rooms aren't gonna clean themselves

[mouse]

I am en led to my opinion but to be honest, I have more important things to worry about than what the happened on Earth billions and billons of years ago.

It's not "billions"

I don't give a what happened. I wasn't there so it doesn't affect me.

It affects us all you just are not aware that it does.

Now if there was some type of chance I could get money out of this , then yeah I'd obviously give a true

You can ask the Discovery channel the History channel national geographic and the many book writers including Darwin.

but there's not so there we are.

Tell that to Darwin's aires.

[pgardn]

Want to know what's hilarious? I actually believe in evolution up to a point. I believe that people and creatures have to adapt to surroundings.

I guess the big question is creation itself. Even if you believe in evolution completely you have to agree that it's pretty tough to break down because everything had to come from SOMETHING. Then what did that something come from? Which is why I believe that most people turn to religion to answer their question. I mean, you don't want to believe that *poof* humans appeared and that is perfectly reasonable but there had to be a poof moment right? I mean going ALL the way back.

Nope there was no poof moment in science. It's a continuum. There is disagreement over about when modern humans (mostly based on cranial size) arose. And it's arbitrary. Right now, about 100,000 years ago. No poof. The only poof would occur if we tried to assign an exact time and an exact fossil.

You tell me what a human really is. Obviously it's more than bones and DNA to you and to I. When exactly did a human first ponder it's own existence enough to think of an idea now called God? When? Science can't say. We might look at cave drawings and burials and surmise humans thought of an afterlife. But the first, who was it? I can't answer that based on anything I have read. NO POOF in science. The Big Bang, how did it arise? We don't know. No poof. Science is not afraid to say. But apparently religious types enjoy backing themselves into a corner because they try to judge and make up answers.
There are people on this board that would say we are going to if we don't accept Jesus Christ as our savior. And lots of other bizarre stuff. And then wonder why religion does turn people off...

[rascal]

So then why does it matter what you believe? You're not interested in actually knowing, just in getting a thin surface level comfort about what you already believe to be true based on the plausibility of claims that you judge using illogical reasoning.

You will learn the answers after you die.

[xmas1997]

Nope there was no poof moment in science. It's a continuum. There is disagreement over about when modern humans (mostly based on cranial size) arose. And it's arbitrary. Right now, about 100,000 years ago. No poof. The only poof would occur if we tried to assign an exact time and an exact fossil.

You tell me what a human really is. Obviously it's more than bones and DNA to you and to I. When exactly did a human first ponder it's own existence enough to think of an idea now called God? When? Science can't say. We might look at cave drawings and burials and surmise humans thought of an afterlife. But the first, who was it? I can't answer that based on anything I have read. NO POOF in science. The Big Bang, how did it arise? We don't know. No poof. Science is not afraid to say. But apparently religious types enjoy backing themselves into a corner because they try to judge and make up answers.
There are people on this board that would say we are going to if we don't accept Jesus Christ as our savior. And lots of other bizarre stuff. And then wonder why religion does turn people off...

You are right, there are those on this board who would say that.
But there are even more on this board who bash those who believe in God and yet do not judge the unbelievers among you
The atheists are far more condemning of the theists on this board than the other way around IMHO.

[rascal]

our concept of time. Who knows how far everything actually goes back. Not just the earth but everything.

The beginning of time was the birth of the 3rd dimension. God exists in a higher dimension. Man is too ignorant on this side of life to understand all that exists beyond the 3rd dimension. Wonders exist that we cannot even imagine in the higher dimensions.

[DMC]

You will learn the answers after you die.

Speaking from experience?

[DMC]

The beginning of time was the birth of the 3rd dimension. God exists in a higher dimension. Man is too ignorant on this side of life to understand all that exists beyond the 3rd dimension. Wonders exist that we cannot even imagine in the higher dimensions.

So the birth of the 3rd came after the birth of higher dimensions. Math isn't your strong suit I see.

[xmas1997]

There are those who postulate dimensional theories and believe strongly in them.

[DMC]

I am en led to my opinion but to be honest, I have more important things to worry about than what the happened on Earth billions and billons of years ago. I don't give a what happened. I wasn't there so it doesn't affect me. Now if there was some type of chance I could get money out of this , then yeah I'd obviously give a true but there's not so there we are.

Women must flock to you in droves, and I don't mean at the layaway counter.

[DMC]

There are those who postulate dimensional theories and believe strongly in them.

Theories? lol...

[DMC]

Blake Almighty?

Oh that's right, you're part of the emoticon crew that meets at wing joints to talk about forum stuff.

[pgardn]

You are right, there are those on this board who would say that.
But there are even more on this board who bash those who believe in God and yet do not judge the unbelievers among you
The atheists are far more condemning of the theists on this board than the other way around IMHO.

That might well be. I'm not in to making fun of people except when they misrepresent science. And I know this happens very frequently.

But atheists, IMO, don't feel the need to invent a higher power that made humans. At least this is how I view their ideas. It's more reductionist. They don't feel the need to use the supernatural to explain the explainable through other means such as science. I understand this.