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i'll give him some props for tonight though, hopefully he builds from this performance.
He still sucks Tbh.
Tonight he wasn't terrible tho,
he actually looked like an NBA player
i'll give him some props for tonight though, hopefully he builds from this performance.
People love to hatesuch high expectations for the 4th big man in our rotation. He played a fine game tonight. Box score doesn't tell the whole story, but I guess people still believe it does. Maybe he's had more bad games than good probably, but it's his first season here. He still gives us something we haven't had in terms of an athletic big man. His timing/chemistry will come with time.
I'm mostly just ing with you people, because I don't understand you at all. I have NEVER hated any player wearing silver and black.
why is this thread being bumped?
But shouldn't a 4th big at least look like an NBA player? Ayres has had one decent game where he played great defense on Anthony Davis. But he's done way more bad than good up to this point. Sorry, I'm just not convinced he should be in the rotation. We're 50 games in and he still hasn't looked any better. I was actually a believer of his to start the season fwiw.People love to hate
You just bumped it yourself.
He has at times. His biggest issue is fouling too much and i guess catching passes (though I think some of those passes are not put in a place that's ideal for him to catch) I just think he's going to be a project. When you look at his previous teams, he never averaged more than 10mpg. His per 36 numbers this year are not bad, it's just little things he's not picking up on.. Positioning on both ends at times, like i mentioned fouling (not going vertical), not being patient when he catches it in the paint. Tonight he at least displayed patience and went up and under instead of potentially going up in a crowd trying to dunk it. He's got the athleticism, but the BBIQ was probably not as high as we would like, considering what we are paying him. But they must see there's potential, and if he can continue to do what he did tonight and show patience and play solid defense, then it's a great investment. If not, then they'll cut their ties with him.
He's not a skilled player like Diaw or Belinelli, those guys play more with their mind then their athletic abilities. So they can be plugged in and play nearly flawlessly when they come to a system like ours. The same to a lesser degree of Splitter, cause even he struggled early on to pick up the system. Ayres is a guy who probably has relied on his ability to jump high and his height in this league and now he's learning there's a lot more to basketball. I just think if Pop & Co. can help him to utilize his physical talents and translate that to a higher BBIQ, he can be a very nice player for us. Tonight was a step in the right direction. Gotta start somewhere
Yeah, good points. I am hoping he will start to build on what little momentum he has but I just have a hard time seeing him contribute on a team that is going for a championship. If he can prove me wrong, I welcome it.
He touched the ball es! MVP!
His issues are much more than fouling and bad hands although those are problems. Before I get into this I do want to say that people are quite obviously used to modern day pussyball as they winch about fouls from bigs coming off the bench. Kurt Rambis, Jerome Kersey, and John Salley say all y'all are made. Moving on.
Ayers rotations are complete and utter in every way shape and form. They are also not getting better. For all of the talk of his ability to run and jump, it goes unsaid just how poor of a side to side athlete he is.
He is stiff in the hips and has issues moving from side to side and turning. He is the worst athlete on the roster in this regard including Bonner. He has trouble getting from the weakside to cut off penetration even when he diagnosis the play. He fouls because he is late and out of position as much as if not more for than any other reason.
He also uses awful technique. I scream at him time and again, game after game as he fails to even get his hands up when he does rotate or worse on basic pnr plays.
Ayers has no offensive game outside of doing the Oberto run to the front of the rim. This last game he got assists because it was Al Jefferson guarding him. Jefferson is worse than Ayers in guarding the rim. Watching him play off Ayers shaded towards the rim and still matador cutting Spurs for layups was one of the worst defensive efforts I have ever seen. My point though is that do not expect many repeat performances of this recent Hornets game.
His jump shot is awkward and shoots at a low percentage.
He has absolutely no post moves whatsoever. All told this allows teams to cheat off of him and teams that rotate well can use that to double the out of our other guys and cheat. Sure he sometimes gets free but good defense still takes advantage of him.
This in a nuts ! HE SUCKS.
But when he does make that mad dash to the rim, he runs damn fast. Like a prime DRob. I think he might even be a smidgeon faster.
Not sure if serious or just copypasting...
My tongue was planted so firmly I may need a surgeon to remove it from my cheek.
Yea I'm not saying I disagree with any of this. I was simply trying to hint at that was the kind of player he was and has been in the league. So it will take time to get him to where he can be effective in our system. And if he turns out to not be, then the Spurs I'm sure (hopefully) will do whats necessary and move on. I mean for his size and athleticism, it's rare for us to have someone like that. Why not gamble on him and see if he can be molded into something more? I know some people were willing to take a gamble on Oden for example, I don't see the harm in gambling with a big who actually plays consistently. His offense should be the last thing to focus on, IMO he should focus on being more of a Tyson Chandler kind of player, trying to defend a large area, rebounding, changing shots, etc... It's frustrating when he doesn't hustle for those 50/50 balls at times, (maybe it's his T-Rex arms idk...) but I just don't think there's that much wrong with trying to develop a guy during the season. If he doesn't pan out or hasn't grasped our philosophies, then I would have to imagine Pop will not include him in the playoff rotation or will play him very sparingly.
A guy with the speed and athleticism of prime DRob should have no problem becoming the next Tyson Chandler.
People just makin' up. His wingspan is 7'1".
Really? Wow... Looking at the guy I would've never guessed that
Baynes is ing trash. He got his pushed EVERY time he tried a layup or hook tonight. At least Ayres was able to finish at the rim.
Baynes is D-League trash and paid like it. Problem is Ayres is the same but promised 3.5 mil from the Spurs. The gap between these two and Diaw is like a canyon. Neither belongs on an NBA team.
They are just KILLING us on P'n'R switches with Baynes. They're getting like 7 foot jumpers.
Don't know what game you're watching seeing as Ayres sucks too. Can't rebound(1 board in 12 minutes) or catch the ball. Like I said, neither is NBA quality.
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