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    It's the old story: It's not the age, it's the mileage. Even though he's less than 4 months away from turning 32, he might as well be turning 35. Throw in his style of play and it would make sense for him to be in decline . . . yet I don't think he is.

    I think his lackluster play (by his standards, obviously) is entirely fatigued related and that he'll bounce back next season at least close to the level he was at the previous two seasons. I just don't buy that, in the absence of a career altering injury, in a few short months he went from a top 5 player in the world to a non top 20 one.
    I've said I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, and that's where I am... I don't particularly believe in the "flip the switch" theory, but there's still time to ramp up... is he's hurting right now though, he should sit down for a while.

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    I've said I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, and that's where I am... I don't particularly believe in the "flip the switch" theory, but there's still time to ramp up... is he's hurting right now though, he should sit down for a while.
    Fair enough. I'm just saying, throwing out his age (which you got wrong), without context, is foolish.

    If/when they get healthy, they probably will sit him for a stretch, but it won't be as long as many are clamoring for.

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    Why does every Manu "hate" thread gets a pass and a Parker one doesn't?

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    Fair enough. I'm just saying, throwing out his age (which you got wrong), without context, is foolish.

    If/when they get healthy, they probably will sit him for a stretch, but it won't be as long as many are clamoring for.
    Maybe they want to get to 50, lock a seed then start the heavy rest... they did something like that last season. They're still squeaking out wins at a good rate and the compe ion dropping silly games here and there, so as long as there's no season ender injury, it seems to be working well.

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    Your posting on the wrong side of the tracks DD. Best be careful.
    is that a threat tbh ?

    people denying the fact Manu is a spurs fan favorite because he is a Spanish native speaker are delusional or stupid

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    is that a threat tbh ?

    people denying the fact Manu is a spurs fan favorite because he is a Spanish native speaker are delusional or stupid
    Wrong. People denying the fact that Manu is funnier to watch than heroball TP is a either a re or a moron.

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    Wrong. People denying the fact that Manu is funnier to watch than heroball TP is a either a re or a moron.
    Said the guy called diego

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    Said the guy called diego
    See what I mean? My post was immediately validated.

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    See what I mean? My post was immediately validated.
    they never fail to deliver

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    The facts that Parker haters cannot accept. Without Tony we wouldn't have gotten as far as the finals last year.

    He won game 1 for us on clutch shooting. He pulled a hamstring in game 3(? can't remember exactly) and played ok (not great but okay) in the next couple of games because there was more than one day in between the games for him to get rehab on his leg. ...

    He did NOT pull a hamstring. That is revisionist history! It was only well after his suckfest started that this gained some traction--it gets repeated so much that people think it a fact. PARKER WAS NOT HURT. HE WAS PWNED. GASSED.

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    Wrong. People denying the fact that Manu is funnier to watch than heroball TP is a either a re or a moron.

    Yeah, his injuries and bad passes are hilarious.

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    He did NOT pull a hamstring. That is revisionist history! It was only well after his suckfest started that this gained some traction--it gets repeated so much that people think it a fact. PARKER WAS NOT HURT. HE WAS PWNED. GASSED.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--to...065336663.html

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    Trying to out-Wade Wade. It was bs. He wasn't hurt.

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    Parker described the injury as "really weird" and said he couldn't remember when or how he suffered it.

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    Yeah. Major injury there. Right.

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    Best post of Manu discover, you answer me it would have been without Manu in 2005 and 2007?? without Manu others across the Playoffs? in criticizing see both enjoy it, that when Manu and Tim will be going to see the Spurs!

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    Trying to out-Wade Wade. It was bs. He wasn't hurt.
    Even if Wade was hurt, he showed up in the Finals. Parker didn't. Wade has a long history of being a reliable post-season performer. Parker doesn't. TP definitely seems like he's hiding behind the made-up injury to disguise his pathetic performance against the Heat.

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    He did NOT pull a hamstring. That is revisionist history! It was only well after his suckfest started that this gained some traction--it gets repeated so much that people think it a fact. PARKER WAS NOT HURT. HE WAS PWNED. GASSED.
    He strained a hamstring. I don't know the difference between a pull and a strain…but there was a hamstring problem that he played through in games 4 through 7.

    You are the one revising history to say he was not hurt. Sorry…but you really are wrong on this.

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    IMO Parker was no more hurt than many guys on the floor. He looked fine to me when he put the Spurs up with 50 seconds to go in game 6. Parker IMO did his job, carried the team throughout most of the playoffs and put the team up in the clincher.

    It's really not his fault Manu had 8 turnovers, Pop the bed and that the Spurs folded like a house of cards IMO

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    Best post of Manu discover, you answer me it would have been without Manu in 2005 and 2007?? without Manu others across the Playoffs? in criticizing see both enjoy it, that when Manu and Tim will be going to see the Spurs!
    ugh, another ESL poster (and predictably, a manufan)...

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    IMO Parker was no more hurt than many guys on the floor. He looked fine to me when he put the Spurs up with 50 seconds to go in game 6. Parker IMO did his job, carried the team throughout most of the playoffs and put the team up in the clincher.

    It's really not his fault Manu had 8 turnovers, Pop the bed and that the Spurs folded like a house of cards IMO
    Manu sucked but let's not twist history and pretend Parker didn't heroball the team into failure. He shot a combined 9-35 in game 6 and 7. Can't expect to win a le when you have cancerous player like that taking most of your team's shots.
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    Manu sucked but let's not twist history and pretend Parker didn't heroball the team into failure. He shot a combined 9-35 in game 6 and 7.
    After Parker put the team up by 5 points with less than 30 seconds left in game 6 (yes, he took those shots after missing earlier ones - some people call that being a clutch shooter) he didn't take another shot in that game before overtime. So how do you get to the conclusion that he hero-balled us into failure in that game plus game 7? And by game 7, if you don't imagine that a strained hammy that had been used to run faster and further than anyone else on either team had done for the entire playoffs wasn't bothering him, you are really blinding yourself.

    Parker's shot was off in the last two games for sure…but he DID put us in a position to win the entire championship in game 6.

    The fact that it didn't happen is not his fault.

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    After Parker put the team up by 5 points with less than 30 seconds left in game 6 (yes, he took those shots after missing earlier ones - some people call that being a clutch shooter) he didn't take another shot in that game before overtime. So how do you get to the conclusion that he hero-balled us into failure in that game plus game 7? And by game 7, if you don't imagine that a strained hammy that had been used to run faster and further than anyone else on either team had done for the entire playoffs wasn't bothering him, you are really blinding yourself.

    Parker's shot was off in the last two games for sure…but he DID put us in a position to win the entire championship in game 6.

    The fact that it didn't happen is not his fault.
    Hilarious. A player shoots 25% in the two most important games of his career and he still has fans trying to find excuses for his failures. Parker has a long career as a terrible playoff performer. Instead of blaming his performance on a fabricated injury, the more likely conclusion is that he sucked. His choking goes back a long while in career. Also shot 7-23 in the pivotal game 5 of the Conference Semis against the Lakers in 2004. TP's been disappointing Spurs fans for LONG time.

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    Manu sucked but let's not twist history and pretend Parker didn't heroball the team into failure.
    except this didn't happen. heroball is a myth regurginated by manufans and disgruntled spurfans. Truth is Parker is one of the most efficient scorers in the league.

    If Ray Allen didn't make that dagger 3 all fans would claim Lebron "heroballed" the Heat into failure

    He shot a combined 9-35 in game 6 and 7. Can't expect to win a le when you have cancerous player like that taking most of your team's shots.
    And the rest of the Spurs guards(Manu, Neal, Green) shot a combined 14-50 in game 6 and 7. Not to mention these combined guards had 17 TURNOVERS vs. Parker's 2 in game 6 and 7.

    I take the guard that shot 26% and 1 TO a game over 3 guards that shoot 28% and have over 8 TOs a game

    can't expect to win a le with 3 cancerous players turning the ball over like that and shooting 28%

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    It's pretty crazy that there are people actually defending Parker's performances in games 6 and 7..

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    except this didn't happen. heroball is a myth regurginated by manufans and disgruntled spurfans. Truth is Parker is one of the most efficient scorers in the league.
    Only in the regular season. He has a .516 TS% in the post-season which is pretty crappy for a scoring guard.

    If Ray Allen didn't make that dagger 3 all fans would claim Lebron "heroballed" the Heat into failure
    Comparing Parker's impact to an all-time great like Lebron.


    And the rest of the Spurs guards(Manu, Neal, Green) shot a combined 14-50 in game 6 and 7. Not to mention these combined guards had 17 TURNOVERS vs. Parker's 2 in game 6 and 7.

    I take the guard that shot 26% and 1 TO a game over 3 guards that shoot 28% and have over 8 TOs a game

    can't expect to win a le with 3 cancerous players turning the ball over like that and shooting 28%
    Manu, Neal, and Green are all role players. It's not unusual for role players to disappear in the post-season. That's when stars have to step up and take on more of the scoring load. Parker was supposed to be our best player and the first option on the team and he ended up averaging 15 ppg on 41% in the Finals. No team in NBA history has ever won a championship with their first option playing that bad. The fact that Spurs were so close speaks volumes about how good everyone else was(Duncan, Leonard). Embarrassing that TP blew the only chance at salvaging his reputation as a playoff performer. He'll forever be known as a choke artist that rode Duncan and Manu's coattails to three les.

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    Manu, Neal, and Green are all role players. It's not unusual for role players to disappear in the post-season. That's when stars have to step up and take on more of the scoring load. Parker was supposed to be our best player and the first option on the team and he ended up averaging 15 ppg on 41% in the Finals. No team in NBA history has ever won a championship with their first option playing that bad. The fact that Spurs were so close speaks volumes about how good everyone else was(Duncan, Leonard). Embarrassing that TP blew the only chance at salvaging his reputation as a playoff performer. He'll forever be known as a choke artist that rode Duncan and Manu's coattails to three les.

    sorry to break it to you but Lebron's "role playing guards" shot 40% and had 5 TOs a game in the same game 6 and 7 in question and I'm talking about Chalmers, Allen and Miller. not even including Wade in the equation

    I'm gonna go ahead and say if Chalmers, Allen and Miller instead had shot 28% and had 8.5 TOs a game, Lebron doesnt get his #2

    fortunately for some of us afficionados, basketball is a team sport, and no matter how good you are, if your teammates the bed like Parker's did (28% shooting and 8.5TOs a game) you are not getting the le.

    but let's go ahead and blame the loss on the heroballer

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