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I love this thread. I got excited just reading the le again.
They could have paid him to go home for the rest of the season and tried to trade his expiring contract in the summer. If that failed, they could have simply bought him out. That worst case scenario would leave them without Festus, RJ, and an 11M obligation for next season. I'd say that's better than where they are.Maybe. They had less than two days to explore options, and there are very few teams who would have been interested in bringing Jack into their organization. I suppose given time, they probably could have found a multi-player trade that only left them with $3-7 million on the books for 2013-14 instead of RJ's $11mil, but I think that's about as good as they could have done.
Edit: That and they could have gotten actual basketball players out of the trade. I guess I'm starting to see your point.
Buford did great work by presenting what appeared to be a viable escape to the Warriors. Just a great trade for the Spurs.
I love this thread. I got excited just reading the le again.
How can people still discuss if it was a good move or not for SA? It was the highlight of last season.
Who cares about regular season numbers? Richard Jefferson has a vagina. And that vagina is getting 11m next season
Jack was, is and will always be better than Jefferson.
Well atleast the good thing is we can use the money for this off-season. Spurs have to make sure that whoever they sign this off-season is worth it.
Still loved this trade since it got rid of Jefferson and allowed Kawhi to take over.
I was so excited about this trade. I am now furious with how it ended. Jax ruined everything.
Why tbh? The Spurs don't get to the Conf Finals or NBA Finals with RJ on the team.
Not talking about on the court. Talking about the stupid and nasty way it ended.
Not anymore, tbh.. that ugly-ass, Grinch-looking ..
Yep, we went out and GOT JEFF AYRES!
Well atleast the good thing is we can use the money for this off-season. Spurs have to make sure that whoever they sign this off-season is worth it.
Didn't he hit 6 threes in that elimination game vs OKC?
Double post.
Not only that he shot over 50% from three in the playoffs and 60 overall I believe or near it, also he shot over 80% from the line! He paid off that first year in the playoffs. He also hit a huge three in game one vs the Thunder which basically sealed it, he was good his first year back in the playoffs.
He shot .535% from two, over .600 from three and .939 from FT line to be exact, not bad for 17 playoff games. RJ would not have done half that.
Perfect situation he came into during his first season back.. Went from playing with a ty team to a contender, halfway thru the season and didn't have to be the focal point at all. Given his age and the fact that he admits he never really plays basketball during the summer or work on his game hurt his 2nd year stint. He had a decent run right before he hurt himself and then his personal problems which I think attributed to his at ude problem. Would have been helpful in certain spots in the playoffs last year.
I agree, he lost his daughter didn't he? I feel that would have a huge effect on almost anyone! That and a lack of working in the offseason I agree. I agree last year in spurts he would have been helpful, namely late in game I won't mention again.
Yup, first had the ankle injury because of that spill and then went on hiatus for a week or so because of the baby. It's amazing that he hung on as long as he did with his poor work ethic in the off season.
I still like the trade. Now that Jefferson is having a resurgent year with an awful team and Jackson fell out of the league it seems questionable. However at the time it seemed great and the immediate returns were very good. The spurs finances don't seem to have been harmed by the transaction which was important and he provided a useful role for just over a seasons worth of games.
Jackson's falling out of the league have to do with his semi-lackadaisical at ude when not actually playing organized basketball. As well as his tumultuous personality and the effect some personal issues had on that. I also think that as some time has passed and after meeting with the team last year that most hard feelings are gone. Jackson/Pop interaction during pre-game in the early part of the season seemed warm and sincere.
Jefferson is also two years younger and honestly simply takes better care of his body. Would it be a smart trade for a team that had rights to Jefferson today? No but the conditions at the time made it a good transaction and comparing the two players production until the play-offs last year (I know that Jackson was waived just before the end of the season/start of the play-offs) Jackson comes out as a very comparable player.
It's clear now that the Spurs started winning games because of Diaw, not Jack, tbh. RJ was the better player, at least serviceable. Jack was completely done at that point. However the Spurs saved a ton of money.
The trade was never about Stephen Jackson. It was about shedding $11M in salary for one ty late first round pick. SJ had a contract to match salaries, and a team that had just acquired him that wanted NO part of his bull .
As for his personal problems last spring, while I feel badly for he and his wife, unless she miscarried multiple times when he was on multiple teams, it really had nothing to do with his clashes with Pop last spring. He's burned his bridges with every team he's ever been on. It's what he does.
He had various bridge burning issues but not ever previously on winning teams. He also typically took quite awhile to melt down in a lockerroom. Jackson melting down there and him taking time off from the team was as much about his personal life as his personality.
Its a good thing we never ended up with Kaman.
Damn I was so happy about this trade. Thought for sure we would be ringing it up with Jack again.
The trade was great. Not trading Jack last season and letting his contract go to waste was the bad part.
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