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    Would anyone believe......

    There were blacks here in America before the pilgrims landed?

    The first great jockey was a black rider named Isacc Murphy. As a matter of fact most of that first wave of great jockies were black.

    Louisiana governer (30's) Jimmie Davis who was a blues/country singer recorded with black musicians back when we still had "race records". And this was the not so gallant south.

    At the 1936 Olympics in Berlin (with Hitler in attendence) the USA team had two jewish sprinters (Sam Stroller and Marty Glickman) on our 4x1 team. Due to the politics of the situation they were replaced by black sprinters Jesse Owens and Ralph Metcalfe (gold and silver in the 100m) now think about that......

    Imagine a time when a southern football bowl game committee told a school.....you can come if you leave your two black players at home. Obviously it was.... you! That was the 1951 U of San Francisco football team. Burl Toler and the great Ollie Matson (Hall of Fame running back/Olympic medal winning 400m sprinter) the black players.

    In his book...The Bear...by the great football coach Bear Bryant he talks about knowing how the mindset of southern football schools was going to have to change if they planned on being compe ive. He talks about the obvious physical differences especially when it came to size with speed. He went as far as setting up a dinner with USC coach and friend John McKay about how to deal with interracial football teams. This coming after watching big fast and black Trojan running back Sam Cunningham (yep, his older brother) run over around and thru his smaller/slower Crimson Tide.

    We all know about the musical influenses, rock and roll and country hugely influensed by southern black blues. Elvis***...The King of Rock... talking about it as did Jimmie Rodgers ...The Father of Country Music...both were from Mississippi.

    *** covering bluesmen Big Boy Crudup, Lonnie Johnson and Junior Parker at his first Sun Records recording session. His later hit.."Hound Dog"...another cover of a blues tune that belonged to Big Mama Thornton.






    Wilbur Jackson had a good career at Bama, and was drated by the Niners where he had a solid NFL career,


    The first song Elvis recorded in 1954, this is from 1946.





    Black influensed?



    Daughter turned me on to this.

    Oh yeah, The Million Dollar Quartet was...

    Elvis
    Carl Perkins
    Johnny Cash
    Jerry Lee Lewis

    ....who all started off at Sun Records in Memphis, as did.....BB King, Howlin' Wolf and Roy Orbison.
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    Would anyone believe......
    Yes.

    Yes anyone would believe that.

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    It's good legs rather than brains that make good sprinters so replacing two Jewish sprinters with a pair of black ones sounded just like the right thing to do tbh.

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    I like how black history month is the shortest month is the year. Even when we give them an extra day

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    It's good legs rather than brains that make good sprinters so replacing two Jewish sprinters with a pair of black ones sounded just like the right thing to do tbh.
    Sam Stoller was a stud, as you can see...

    1936

    1 Jesse Owens USA 9.4
    2 Sam Stoller USA 9.5
    2 Ralph Metcalfe USA 9.5
    4 Harvey Wallender USA 9.6
    4 Eulace Pea USA 9.6
    4 Harry Anderson USA 9.6
    4 Walter Cecil USA 9.6
    4 Foy Draper USA 9.6
    4 Ed Daigle USA 9.6
    4 Perrin Walker USA 9.6
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    I like how black history month is the shortest month is the year. Even when we give them an extra day
    Thank God they are here. Imagine our Olympic team, football, music, basketball without them. Slavery a blessing in disquise for those lucky enought to have escaped Africa because of it.

    Now before some dummy..."slavery a blessing?"...I'm obviously talking about those here "after" slavery, yes slavery it's self was terrible.....obviously.
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    This is the first "country" blues ever recorded, Ed Andrews (Georgia) recorded one record in 1924 just ahead of Papa Charley Jackson (Louisiana) and Daddy Stovepipe{Alabama). While it obviously has historical significense, he wasn't too good.


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    Low-hanging strange fruit

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    Low-hanging strange fruit
    One of the really tragic songs.


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    The first black to ever perform on The Grand Old Opry. The great Deford Bailey.



    Real easy to play. Some of his other stuff not so.

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    First black to win an Oscar.


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    Thank God they are here. Imagine our Olympic team, football, music, basketball without them. Slvery a blessing in disquise for those lucky enought to have escaped Africa because of it.

    Now before some dummy..."slavery a blessing?"...I'm obviously talking about those here "after" slavery, yes slavery it's self was terrible.....obviously.
    You've disclaimed the wrong issue.

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    One of the really tragic songs.

    yeah, that's kinda where I was going with the not-so-gallant line. You impressed?

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    You've disclaimed the wrong issue.
    I don't think so. If not for the slave trade things would have been totally different than what we see today.

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    yeah, that's kinda where I was going with the not-so-gallant line. You impressed?
    Sure, it's good to see someone with a little depth here.

    If ya really want to impress what old time hillbillie hick band recorded....Run N..Run..?

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    I don't think so. If not for the slave trade things would have been totally different than what we see today.
    Imagine all the changes to your almanac lists!

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    I wonder who influensed her?




    Or him..

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    For some odd reason, perhaps clairvoyance, I knew there would be a list ITT.

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    For some odd reason, perhaps clairvoyance, I knew there would be a list ITT.
    I like to widen horizons and extend perimeters, that sure beats the out of....ever cut yourself picking your nose.....silliness we see here.

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    I like to widen horizons and extend perimeters, that sure beats the out of....ever cut yourself picking your nose.....silliness we see here.
    You go down the same road time after time. Black athletes... black musicians... it's apparent all you do is sit around in your garage listening to albums and watching ESPN.

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    I like to widen horizons and extend perimeters
    ....by posting the same old lists and YouTubes and constantly whimpering about the same posters?

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    You go down the same road time after time. Black athletes... black musicians... it's apparent all you do is sit around in your garage listening to albums and watching ESPN.
    I started playing football and running track as just a little bittie kid, and my family was knee deep into music. Around here in my kiddie days the best footballers and fastest sprinters were guys like John Henry Hamilton (Tulare Union) Augusta Brown (Redwood) Sam Davis (Fresno) Roger Jones (Bakersfield) Bill Cowings (Fowler) Jerry White (Cocahan) Olympians Leamon King (Delano) Tommie Smith (Lemoore, yep.....he of the famous fist salute). All black cats. So it didn't take me long to figure it out.

    While I liked country it was them old black blues that really took me where I wanted to go, so raw, so primitive.

    Some things you never outgrow, for me it was speed and low down back in the alley music. A life long love affair.

    But.....don't have any of that old stuff on records (would cost a fortune) and no tv out in my Fortess of Solitude. It is funny to read...."you Googled that"..or.."that's some almanac"...hahaha!!!!!! How about some life long experience?
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    ....by posting the same old lists and YouTubes and constantly whimpering about the same posters?
    That coming from a guy who does nothing on this forum but follow others around and then it's that riveting....... got, smilie face, got, got, smilie face...and got. Dude, any list or youtube video beats the out of that lameass junior high bull .

    This is all you do half pint.

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    No Lyfe Vanilla ging up another thread per the usual....

    Dude, you get a boner messing with people, that's all you do here so instead of telling everyone else what they need to do how about you do something, if not then shut the up.
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    Nobody cares about this little fella.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228012

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