JFF will bring a Superbowl to Cleveland

[spurraider21]

Wilson is the first running QB to win a SB (Elway and Young were more passers at that point), and he had the best defense in the NFL and a Top-5 rusher, not to mention the Seahawks had a 29 point lead before he statpadded over half his yds and both his td's

i'm just gna take a deep breath and not argue tbh

[FkLA]

Wilson is the first running QB to win a SB (Elway and Young were more passers at that point), and he had the best defense in the NFL and a Top-5 rusher, not to mention the Seahawks had a 29 point lead before he statpadded over half his yds and both his td's

If you wanna credit Kaep in 2012 than ok--I'm sure all Gore's heavy lifting (and all their 2nd half pts) and the defense pitching a shutout in the 2nd half in the NFCCCG weren't the primary reasons SF won that game.

And Keep didn't do his share of heavy lifting that game? He didn't do the majority of it the previous week vs GB ?

It was that simple. In those games...facing minimal pressure...he YPA was 5.2 and he threw 1 TD and 5 picks. From the games I watched, there was no other team that I can think of that employed this strategy. They all came after him...which opened up his ability to run...which is what he'd rather do.

So nobody else noticed the success LSU had, or if they did they ignored and chose to get slashed for 300 pass/100 rush instead? Like I said I agree with you on other things about him but on this, come on man.

[DeadlyDynasty]

You keep bringing up the GB games to support your point...Their defense has been atrocious since winning the SB in 2010, so how hard can it be to put #'s on that D? Alex Smith beat GB (in Lambeau) in the 2012 opener too, so again it was nothing special. Also, don't forget to acknowledge the horribly thrown ball to Micah Hyde I alluded to earlier. If that was Richard Sherman (or any NFL-quality player) that would've been 6 pts the other way. Ballgame. Kaep is a one-trick pony, sorry.

[DeadlyDynasty]

How many other teams are capable of exploiting what LSU did?...last I checked they're always top-5 in talent (especially defensive prospects) in the country.

[FkLA]

last I checked they're always top-5 in talent (especially defensive prospects) in the country.

so is bama, florida and teams like ole miss/auburn aren't too far off either

[FkLA]

You keep bringing up the GB games to support your point...Their defense has been atrocious since winning the SB in 2010, so how hard can it be to put #'s on that D? Alex Smith beat GB (in Lambeau) in the 2012 opener too, so again it was nothing special. Also, don't forget to acknowledge the horribly thrown ball to Micah Hyde I alluded to earlier. If that was Richard Sherman (or any NFL-quality player) that would've been 6 pts the other way. Ballgame. Kaep is a one-trick pony, sorry.

It's a hopeless argument with you. Even if they enjoy success it's downplayed.

[DeadlyDynasty]

It's a hopeless argument with you. Even if they enjoy success it's downplayed.

I'm on your side in the JFF thing, but you're going about it the wrong way by propping up guys of pro teams who have a negligible impact on their teams overall success.

[FkLA]

I'm on your side in the JFF thing, but you're going about it the wrong way by propping up guys of pro teams who have a negligible impact on their teams overall success.

Think it's more than negligible in Kaeps case but regardless he was brought up in response to the 'dual threats can't win period' BS. Football isn't coming from a Pistol offense or from the MWC so I'm not necessarily comparing them.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'd like to see JFF go to Cleveland or Minnesota--especially the latter, but both have great young talent. If he goes to JAX or HOU he'll never even be the best QB in his division.

[FkLA]

God I hope not. Luck vs Football atleast twice a year would be fun tbh.

[spurraider21]

Football is the only QB that I wouldn't hate the raiders drafting. If they are going to go qb it better be him

[Raven]

Think it's more than negligible in Kaeps case but regardless he was brought up in response to the 'dual threats can't win period' BS. Football isn't coming from a Pistol offense or from the MWC so I'm not necessarily comparing them.

rodgers and luck are dual threat qbs tbh, that's different from a running qb.