Trade Deadline Thread

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Most intriguing Sacramento-based deadline story is increasingly loud buzz out there that Isaiah Thomas is available in midst of career year


Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Kings moved swiftly today to make it clear Ben McLemore will NOT be dealt this week but strong word in circulation is Thomas CAN be had

[Raven]

They need to take what they can get. Love, Aldridge, Bosh. Even Smith. Unless they can land a good young one of Leonard's caliber. I can't even think who would fit that mold.

i don't like that idea, once the duncan era is gone, we need to tank, considering how long it has passed since a spurs pick was in the lottery (that is, duncan's pick), it's almost a given that the next one will win the lottery.

[Chinook]

The Kings can't re-sign Thomas, at least not without moving a forward. But it would be silly to have so many expensive bigs and no money invested in guards who aren't Marcus Thorton. Maybe Thomas WANTS out?

[Mel_13]

I can understand that, but I can also understand doing whatever it takes to win while you still have a HoFer. You can always blow it up after he leaves. It could take years to rebuild a championship-level supporting cast like this one.

Also, I'd hate to let Parker walk for nothing in 2015. If Duncan retires this season, I could see a fire sale, especially if Parker wants to move on. But he's their biggest asset, and getting nothing for him would really set this team back.

If Pop stays beyond 2015, then they probably try to reload around Tony and Kawhi. If not, they don't necessarily lose Tony for nothing. There are likely to be teams that would be interested in a Parker S&T.

[Chinook]

i don't like that idea, once the duncan era is gone, we need to tank, considering how long it has passed since a spurs pick was in the lottery (that is, duncan's pick), it's almost a given that the next one will win the lottery.

Wut?

I personally think reloading and seeing how Leonard, Parker, Green, Splitter and a FA big pan out is a good strategy. Even though they probably won't be a contender, they should be able to win enough to keep things interesting for a while. It would suck to see them toil in obscurity like Detroit or Sacramento.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Is there anybody not up for grabs on the Kings?

[Mel_13]

Wut?

I personally think reloading and seeing how Leonard, Parker, Green, Splitter and a FA big pan out is a good strategy. Even though they probably won't be a contender, they should be able to win enough to keep things interesting for a while. It would suck to see them toil in obscurity like Detroit or Sacramento.

Detroit is a bad example for your position. They've tried to reload.

[monkeypunk]

Is there anybody not up for grabs on the Kings?

Your mom?

[Mel_13]

Is there anybody not up for grabs on the Kings?

Thornton been mentioned. Landry and his horrendous contract are presumably available.

[Chinook]

If Pop stays beyond 2015, then they probably try to reload around Tony and Kawhi. If not, they don't necessarily lose Tony for nothing. There are likely to be teams that would be interested in a Parker S&T.

There could be, and Parker may ask for one to help the Spurs out. But I'm not sure the returns will be that great. It would probably be some salary and low-value picks. Just reading the tea leaves, I don't see a young player who seems like a good candidate to be part of a Parker S&T, especially from the large-market teams that would be his likely desired destinations.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Your mom?

I like your Kawhi Leonard sig

[Chinook]

Detroit is a bad example for your position. They've tried to reload.

Yeah, I thought about that. I will say they didn't try to build around anything, though. They traded or let walk their aging core and signed the best FAs they could. I think the top seven minus Duncan and Ginobili is a much stronger core of than Prince and an estranged Hamilton.

[Mel_13]

There could be, and Parker may ask for one to help the Spurs out. But I'm not sure the returns will be that great. It would probably be some salary and low-value picks. Just reading the tea leaves, I don't see a young player who seems like a good candidate to be part of a Parker S&T, especially from the large-market teams that would be his likely desired destinations.

Right. They likely don't get a big haul in that scenario, but the only way I see a big return for Parker is if Duncan retires and Parker is traded this summer.

[Raven]

Wut?

I personally think reloading and seeing how Leonard, Parker, Green, Splitter and a FA big pan out is a good strategy. Even though they probably won't be a contender, they should be able to win enough to keep things interesting for a while. It would suck to see them toil in obscurity like Detroit or Sacramento.

i don't see what's good about being mediocre. Green, Splitter, Why can be the core of a new era, but we need at least one #1 pick to return contenders in a few years. Buying veterans would just make us the rockets tbh.

[Chinook]

i don't see what's good about being mediocre. Green, Splitter, Why can be the core of a new era, but we need at least one #1 pick to return contenders in a few years. Buying veterans would just make us the rockets tbh.

Houston seems to be doing all right for itself nowadays.

[Raven]

Houston seems to be doing all right for itself nowadays.

they tanked tbh.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

What happened to the Spurs getting Pau?

[Chinook]

Right. They likely don't get a big haul in that scenario, but the only way I see a big return for Parker is if Duncan retires and Parker is traded this summer.

I don't even see a big haul then. Maybe to the Lakers in the draft for Nash and their pick? Sacramento for their pick and one of their bad deals? I don't see a great trade out there. If Tony wants to go, you take what you can get. But unless someone blows the team away with an offer. I'd rather them slowly fall from grace before reaching rock bottom.

[Chinook]

they tanked tbh.

When? They kept getting the 12th-18th picks.

[Baam]

Tanking doesn't work every year... Tanking last season sucked balls for instance... If Tim retires this summer then tanking becomes the best option imo with franchise bigs likely in the draft and plenty of assets to buy picks. On the other hand in 2015 the FA class is better and we won't have many assets to buys picks anyway so reloading could be smarter...

[Mel_13]

I'd rather them slowly fall from grace before reaching rock bottom.

A precipitous fall may be better for the franchise and the fan base.

That's just my perspective from several decades as a sports fan.

[ace3g]

Doesn't always prove anything but being 2 days before trade deadline, looking at box scores can sometimes hint a trade is near, when a players receive odd DNP-CD.

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurs need to fall off a giant cliff once Tim is done.. Get those fools in the FO to stop thinking everything they do is awesome.

[Raven]

When? They kept getting the 12th-18th picks.

that's why they are only a pretender.. they did tank though, but were too hasty.

[Chinook]

Tanking doesn't work every year... Tanking last season sucked balls for instance... If Tim retires this summer then tanking becomes the best option imo with franchise bigs likely in the draft and plenty of assets to buy picks. On the other hand in 2015 the FA class is better and we won't have many assets to buys picks anyway so reloading could be smarter...

Pretty much. This is about the best time to reload. It's not like they couldn't teade away whomever they sign if it doesn't work out.