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    No Wallace even with picks being included? Renting space is a big way Seattle/OKC got so many picks in the first place.
    Wallace was the #2 contract on Simmon's list, right behind the corpse of Amare.

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    Wallace was the #2 contract on Simmon's list, right behind the corpse of Amare.
    getting a backup SF and an additional pick isnt a horrible deal. Even with his contract, it wouldn't hurt our books in any major way. Spurs could still resign Diaw and Mills + use the MLE, and the Bi exception. the Spurs could possibly ship out Ayers and Cojo in a deal and get Wallace and the Clippers pick in 2015.

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    Apologies to Bruno and other mods for disrupting the flow and exchange of ideas in threads. Some posters are acting like they own the forum and that does not bode well for other people who want to air out their thoughts.
    shut up got

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    Would you do this if you were SAS? It'd be a gamble, but I would:

    TO out : Landry Fields, 2014 1st round pick (currently 20th)
    SAS out: Matt Bonner, Nando de Colo
    Fields has gotten progressively worse after his rookie season and especially since he signed that ridiculous contract with Toronto. But he could be one of those guys who finds his game in a better cir stance. Honestly I'd make that trade just to get their first round pick

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    getting a backup SF and an additional pick isnt a horrible deal. Even with his contract, it wouldn't hurt our books in any major way. Spurs could still resign Diaw and Mills + use the MLE, and the Bi exception. the Spurs could possibly ship out Ayers and Cojo in a deal and get Wallace and the Clippers pick in 2015.
    Wallace is due to make $10.1M in 2015-2016; that's the major sticking point. The Spurs can afford to absorb a large contract that expires in 2015 because they won't likely have any cap space this summer anyway. Paying Wallace $10M in 2015 is a complete non-starter unless the Spurs get back assets, plural.

    If the Spurs didn't have so many guards, something like Bradley, Wallace, and a 1st would be a desirable package. Not that Boston would consider it, though. They're more interested in acquiring assets than giving them up to dump salary.

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    Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
    Concerned about re-signing him, Cavs have been testing trade market for Luol Deng ahead of deadline, multiple sources told ESPN.


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    Crazy how crap teams never learn.

    They trade assets for expiring players expecting to re-sign them, but in the end, they either lose the player (like the Bucks/JJ Re case) or they massively overpay the player in order to keep him (Wallace).

    At least the Cavs did not give up much for him.

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    The Luol Deng thing is a good development. Perhaps there is a team out there which wants to sell a/some long term contract to take Deng's expiring and then Deng requests a waive, to be picked up by a contender - preferably the Spurs.

    Lets say for e.g., the Sixers trade Thad Young and Jason Richardson's contract to get Deng from the Cavs along with a 2015 first rounder and a second rounder later maybe. And the Sixers then give up Deng before the waiver deadline after Deng agrees to a slight salary cut and buyout? The possibilities are endless.

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    I just looked at the picks the Cavs send out in that Deng trade:

    - protected 1st rounder from the Kings (Top 12 this year, Top 10 the next three years and after that becomes a 2nd rounder)
    - 2nd rounders from the Blazers in 2015/16
    - Chicago has the right to swap its 1st round pick next year with the Cavs if Cleveland's pick is between 15 and 30

    All that probably just adds up to three 2nd round picks. So they really didn't give up very much at all. Too bad Deng's salary is that high.
    Last edited by jyra; 02-19-2014 at 11:14 AM.

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    Zach Lowe@ZachLowe_NBA 2h
    Multiple teams have told me they have the impression "anyone but Lawson" is available from Denver. Some contracts tough to move, obviously.

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    What about trading Leonard/Bonner/De Colo for Faried/Chandler? I still don't think DEN would do this having Gallinari on the books for the next couple of years.

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    Wallace was the #2 contract on Simmon's list, right behind the corpse of Amare.
    Mel and I were talking about the trade in the context of tanking. We all know it's a horrible contract. I asked him if taking on horrible contracts for picks was something he thought the team should do.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
    Y! Sources: Clippers, Knicks discussing deal centered on Iman Shumpert and Darren Collison. yhoo.it/OafpN0


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    Strange unless the Clips are planning on moving a wing for another PG.

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    Ken Berger@KBergCBS 20s
    The Nets and Kings are on the verge of completing the Marcus Thornton for Jason Terry and Reggie Evans deal, sources confirm.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
    Y! Sources: Clippers, Knicks discussing deal centered on Iman Shumpert and Darren Collison. yhoo.it/OafpN0

    Yikes, I do not want to see Shumpert on the Clips.

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    Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN
    Proposed deal of Darren Collison for Iman & Raymond Felton would also include NY getting Reggie Bullock from Clippers, according to a source


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    Felton and Shumpert on the Clippers would be scary.

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    Trade rumors are always very interesting

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    Ken Berger @KBergCBS
    The Bobcats' pursuit of Evan Turner never got very far, source says. All Charlotte has going now is potential deal for Bucks' Gary Neal.


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    Felton and Shumpert on the Clippers would be scary.
    I don't know. Felton is awful and fat. Shumpert could potentially be an upgrade over Dudley but hes nothing special.

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    I don't give two s about any non-Spurs trades but I'd sell one of your children to keep Neal off the Thunder... You know, for basketball reasons...


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    Adrian Wojnarowski@WojYahooNBA 1m
    Lakers, Nets progressing on Jordan Hill deal, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Ownership showing willingness to take $17M hit.

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