Woj: Spurs have traded De Colo for Austin Daye

[palangi]

Another poster that doesn't get "it". I have already stated that losing De Colo doesn't hurt the team because of the situation. But the fact is, no matter what the depth, that De Colo is a better talent than Daye. Daye does absolutely nothing for this team and actually somewhat lowers the overall talent ceiling (not that it's relevant).

It's not that De Colo was a "baller". He was better than Daye and Daye sucks. That is all.

well I guess you're the only one that gets it!

[DPG21920]

well I guess you're the only one that gets it!

No - several around here do. Also, what I meant about not getting "it" was the context of my post. But welcome to the forum! I can see it's your first visit and I would like to welcome you.

[palangi]

I could be wrong here but I think...I think DPG21 does not like day.

I haven't been able to quite figure it out. But there is 3 different threads of him saying the same thing over and over and over again. Maybe a couple more times and we can figure out his true feelings.

[palangi]

No - several around here do. Also, what I meant about not getting "it" was the context of my post. But welcome to the forum! I can see it's your first visit and I would like to welcome you.

Oh...so if someone agrees with your infinite knowledge then they get it too?

[ChumpDumper]

I could be wrong here but I think...I think DPG21 does not like day.

I haven't been able to quite figure it out. But there is 3 different threads of him saying the same thing over and over and over again. Maybe a couple more times and we can figure out his true feelings.

Usually when a poster goes all in like this, the player turns out OK.

[spurs10]

Obviously a good move. Daye is a backup 3/4. It doesn't take a genius to know we were logjammed a the 2. GSG!

[AFBlue]

Obviously a good move. Daye is a backup 3/4. It doesn't take a genius to know we were logjammed a the 2. GSG!

But he's a less talented 3/4 than the 1/2 the Spurs gave up.

[TD 21]

I'm excited for Nando, tbh, he has a good opportunity in Toronto..

He will have a legit shot to earn the backup PG position, along with more minutes at the backup 2 since Vasquez sucks, tbh..

I may have to attend his first home game and cheer that ..

He's got a good opportunity if Vasquez won't accept his qualifying offer, they don't want to give him a fairly decent contract and let him go. For this season, barring injury, he's got no chance of cracking their rotation, which is set in stone, especially on the perimeter.


As far as Daye, he's a far worse shooting version of Novak, which is to say: A tall shooter with no defined defensive position. He doesn't at all fill a need for another defender to throw at James/Durant . . . and forget about the buyout period. Granger and Butler will inevitably spurn them and there probably won't be another SF worthwhile available.

I knew this was coming all along, but it's no less frustrating. This front office is a disgrace because the big three allow them to be . . . it's funny, the Pacers, in their first season of legit contention, have gone all in (yeah, Bynum isn't the same and Turner isn't all that good, but still; their intent is clear), with a young core no less and the Spurs, in their umpteenth year of contention, with a core with 2 shots left, have never really done so once.

[palangi]

But he's a less talented 3/4 than the 1/2 the Spurs gave up.

I guess we will find out.

all you that claim to know for sure make me laugh.

[palangi]

He's got a good opportunity if Vasquez won't accept his qualifying offer, they don't want to give him a fairly decent contract and let him go. For this season, barring injury, he's got no chance of cracking their rotation, which is set in stone, especially on the perimeter.


As far as Daye, he's a far worse shooting version of Novak, which is to say: A tall shooter with no defined defensive position. He doesn't at all fill a need for another defender to throw at James/Durant . . . and forget about the buyout period. Granger and Butler will inevitably spurn them and there probably won't be another SF worthwhile available.

I knew this was coming all along, but it's no less frustrating. This front office is a disgrace because the big three allow them to be . . . It's funny, the Pacers, in their first season of legit contention, have gone all in (yeah, Bynum isn't the same and Turner isn't all that good, but still; their intent is clear), with a young core no less and the Spurs, in their umpteenth year of contention, with a core with 2 shots left, have never really done so once.

Man we have a lot of arm chair GM's that have this nailed down already.

[AFBlue]

I guess we will find out.

all you that claim to know for sure make me laugh.

I should've used the blue font tbqh. Sorry fwiw.

[ohmwrecker]

I don't know what everyone was expecting tbh. It's not a blockbuster trade, but you have to be a if you thought the Spurs were going to pull off a major deal. What do we have to offer? Bonner, Ayres, DeColo? The Spurs have a glut of PGs and NDC was the worst. At least Daye fills a positional need.

[spurraider21]

Ayres + Daye = Turd Towers 2.0

I've been trying to coin the term Dayres tbh

[ohmwrecker]

But he's a less talented 3/4 than the 1/2 the Spurs gave up.

I don't really care for the 3 PG lineup. How many do we need?

[I. Hustle]

Another poster that doesn't get "it". I have already stated that losing De Colo doesn't hurt the team because of the situation. But the fact is, no matter what the depth, that De Colo is a better talent than Daye. Daye does absolutely nothing for this team and actually somewhat lowers the overall talent ceiling (not that it's relevant).

It's not that De Colo was a "baller". He was better than Daye and Daye sucks. That is all.

So another guard on our bench that is already full of guards is better than a 6'11" guy on the bench? OOOHHHHH I get it.

[mudyez]

I loved De Colo! One of the best Spurs ever.

But who can say no to a Austin Daye (is that the correct spelling?) trade, if they don't even ask for TP9 in return?

[spurraider21]

So De Colo is sitting behind Parker, Mills and Joseph at the 1. He's behind Green, Manu, Marco at the 2. He's an expiring we weren't going to resign anyway. I don't see the harm in dealing him at all

Austin Daye isn't special, but we weren't going to get anything special for Nando. With Leonard out we have been playing undersized guys at the 3, and with Errors and Baynes playing inexplicably horribly, we have had a shortage of big bodies.

[DPG21920]

So another guard on our bench that is already full of guards is better than a 6'11" guy on the bench? OOOHHHHH I get it.

That is what shows you don't get it. I already explained the trade doesn't really move the needle due to cir stance so it's all for not. This was about analysing the deal at hand. Despite the fact it's largely irrleavant, I don't think there is any argument for Daye being more talented than De Colo no matter the cir stance.

If that is the case, even though Spurs have depth, with TP possibly hobbled, CJ unreliable and Manu constantly injured, I definitely think there is a higher chance that De Colo provided something positive (in the regular season of playoffs) over Daye.

[ace3g]

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[DPG21920]

I don't know what everyone was expecting tbh. It's not a blockbuster trade, but you have to be a if you thought the Spurs were going to pull off a major deal. What do we have to offer? Bonner, Ayres, DeColo? The Spurs have a glut of PGs and NDC was the worst. At least Daye fills a positional need.

Not the point - Daye just sucks and no reason to trade a better player for a sucky player no matter what IMO. It's very unlikely it matters at the end of the day, but the point remains.

To your other point, plenty of guys were had very cheaply that were much more talented and obtainable, even if they weren't a great fit. Guys like Turner and Hawes were easily attainable and would have been talent upgrades over the guys they were traded for too.

[ChumpDumper]

Only a matter of time before the fantasy alternate timelines surfaced.

[Johnny RIngo]

2007 off-season or 2013 off-season. Which was more pathetic?

[DPG21920]

I guess we will find out.

all you that claim to know for sure make me laugh.

Well, can you make an educated argument as to why Daye should be considered better? Use box score stats, advanced analytics and any other non-anecdotal evidence to make your case. The point of being on ST, a site dedicated to a love of a team is to analyze things like this and discuss them. What's the point of being an obscure GNSF who's only take is "let's see what happens after the fact"..

[Hoops Czar]

So another guard on our bench that is already full of guards is better than a 6'11" guy on the bench? OOOHHHHH I get it.

No, you don't get it. If Daye plays more than 5 meaningful minutes, he inevitably hurts the team more than a rarely used SG. I guess because he's 6'11", he should move to the front of the line because the Spurs need bigs and he's big and that makes him useful. Only a clown thinks a player who can't crack a fringe playoff team's roster is good enough to play back up to Kawhi on a contender.

[TD 21]

So De Colo is sitting behind Parker, Mills and Joseph at the 1. He's behind Green, Manu, Marco at the 2. He's an expiring we weren't going to resign anyway. I don't see the harm in dealing him at all

In a vacuum, the trade is fine. It's not about that though. It's about the front office once again not doing their job.

If Leonard get's in foul trouble against the Thunder/Heat, they'd be in serious trouble. If he get's injured against either, they're done. Even if he stays healthy, they're not equipped to play a small ball series.

And before the apologists come out of the wood work with the predictable, if any key player on any contender is injured, they're done, response, that's besides the point. You still have to have a backup plan. They have it with the big three (Splitter, Mills and Belinelli). Obviously they couldn't win the championship without any, but it's conceivable they could win a round or at least have a puncher's chance. If Leonard goes down and it's the wrong match-up, they don't even have that. They'd be flat out done on the spot.