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    Should've pried Lebron from Miami... had the 1st round pick to do it too... oh well, opportunity lost...

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    fwiw i'd rather have Daye guarding durant/lebron than De Colo

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    and Green did pretty well in his moments on LeBron in the finals, particularly in transition

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    Sure, first link to how I am lying about watching Daye in addition to me being negative about every trade/move. Until you prove that (which you won't) you are a liar.
    i said what i believe.

    Also, if my rep was important to me (which please link me to proof that is true) why would I admit I was wrong just a few posts up about something else? You aren't making a lot of sense.
    What did you admit you were wrong about?

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    Should've pried Lebron from Miami... had the 1st round pick to do it too... oh well, opportunity lost...
    our front office sucks tbh.

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    Front Office: Tim, we know you're getting up there in age and we want to do everything we can to help you win a championship and go out on top. We have scoured every possible trade and even though we spoiled you with Jeff Ayres this summer we went above and beyond. As you know we have been short handed at the forward spot so we reached outbto Toronto.

    Tim: Amir Johnson?

    FO: No way, better

    Tim: valacunas? Pattrick Paterson?

    FO: No way better

    Tim: chuck Hayes... Tyler hansborough?

    FO: no..... Jim boylen said those guys were all scrubs. He was in the 09 draft same as Ayres.... You know.. Austin Daye. Now go win us #5. Oh and if you see Matt out there let him know we have his briefcase full of money for his extension. 4/25 mil

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    I said mostly . . . what's with you guys and the semantics today?

    It's not incidental. If he thought Green could physically handle James in the post, he wouldn't have gone to Diaw. It's not just about how many points Green allowed, it's about the reality that they have to provide at least some help, which opens up the three, something they're already poor at defending, given their lack of length/quickness.

    They could have. Some of the players that have been discussed ad nauseam would have been better options than Green. As far as them needing a situational forward, I don't disagree. Even though I wanted Williams, Clark would have been fine. Was him or someone of his ilk asking too much?
    You're preaching to the choir on acquisitions, but it's just crazy anti-Green bias to assume those players are better James defenders.

    It literally is about how many points Green allowed. If he stopped James from scoring, he guarded him well. And both he and Leonard had constant help from Duncan (and Splitter before he got glued to the bench) and a guard. The idea that Kawhi did anything single-handedly against James is a myth.

    Pop pulled Green in large part because the Heat played so much small ball. It's one thing to run Danny at the three, but there weren't enough legit perimeter player to have Green play the four when Leonard was out. It's not like Danny didn't guard James throughout parts of the whole series.

    It's not semantics. James literally scored twice in the post on Green. He overpowered him those times, but he couldn't manage to do that for most of the series. That's because Green's actually a strong post defender, especially for a wing. He was a big in college. To act like random forwards are better just makes no sense.

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    i said what i believe.
    So you posted something you couldn't cite, yet ask me to find links?


    What did you admit you were wrong about?
    You can read - look in the last couple of pages where I posted.

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    our front office sucks tbh.
    They're drunk with past glories. It all started going downhill when we traded Paul George... never recovered.

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    Front Office: Tim, we know you're getting up there in age and we want to do everything we can to help you win a championship and go out on top. We have scoured every possible trade and even though we spoiled you with Jeff Ayres this summer we went above and beyond. As you know we have been short handed at the forward spot so we reached outbto Toronto.

    Tim: Amir Johnson?

    FO: No way, better

    Tim: valacunas? Pattrick Paterson?

    FO: No way better

    Tim: chuck Hayes... Tyler hansborough?

    FO: no..... Jim boylen said those guys were all scrubs. He was in the 09 draft same as Ayres.... You know.. Austin Daye. Now go win us #5. Oh and if you see Matt out there let him know we have his briefcase full of money for his extension. 4/25 mil
    I know I shouldn't be laughing but my god this just made my day! Thanks for this man

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    The Spurs FO is easily the best in the league. Easily. That doesn't mean they haven't made mistakes. Spurs if they are healthy (big if) obviously can contend, but the Spurs had some room to improve and made some seemingly poor choices this off season.

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    They're drunk with past glories. It all started going downhill when we traded Paul George... never recovered.
    We never should've let go Carlos Boozer either.

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    I know I shouldn't be laughing but my god this just made my day! Thanks for this man
    In the next scene Tim calls George Karl to confirm he's retiring at the end of the season

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    Spurs if they are healthy (big if) obviously can contend, but the Spurs had some room to improve and made some seemingly poor choices this off season.
    This and teams got better, some intentionally building their rosters with destroying the Spurs in mind.
    Last edited by Chomag; 02-20-2014 at 07:34 PM.

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    For the amount of minutes Daye is going to get, we might as well have signed Royce White... at least we would be being good sports and promoting mental health treatment...

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    So you posted something you couldn't cite, yet ask me to find links?
    Of course. You claimed something tangible. I can't prove a negative.

    Is this really that hard for you.




    You can read - look in the last couple of pages where I posted.
    Nope. Just say "I was completely wrong about _______________."

    I want to see if you can do it.

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    This and teams got better, some intentionally building their rosters with destroying the Spurs in mind.
    Well, I don't think teams really got better with any moves. OKC is better, but that's because of Durant actually taking a next step in his game (defense has improved, passing/decision making..). Same with the Clips: they added some new pieces but their jump has come from within (Blake beasting and Jordan committing to his role of elite defensive rebounder/finisher).

    Spurs had a real shot to (on paper) separate themselves some from the pack. They can still contend without doing that but their margin for error is none compared to other teams.

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    god damnit why couldnt we trade bonner ayres, for a legitimate agressive AMERICAN BIG

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    You're preaching to the choir on acquisitions, but it's just crazy anti-Green bias to assume those players are better James defenders.

    It literally is about how many points Green allowed. If he stopped James from scoring, he guarded him well. And both he and Leonard had constant help from Duncan (and Splitter before he got glued to the bench) and a guard. The idea that Kawhi did anything single-handedly against James is a myth.

    Pop pulled Green in large part because the Heat played so much small ball. It's one thing to run Danny at the three, but there weren't enough legit perimeter player to have Green play the four when Leonard was out. It's not like Danny didn't guard James throughout parts of the whole series.

    It's not semantics. James literally scored twice in the post on Green. He overpowered him those times, but he couldn't manage to do that for most of the series. That's because Green's actually a strong post defender, especially for a wing. He was a big in college. To act like random forwards are better just makes no sense.
    I don't have an anti-Green bias. On the contrary, I've been a Green fan since before the Spurs even picked him up. He's just not physically strong enough to guard James in the post.

    Leonard needs less help though. Ideally, Green needs a full on double team in the post. That is why Pop went away from that match-up.

    Whether there was a single straight up block or not is semantics. To act like many of the names I mentioned aren't better suited to defending James makes no sense.

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    Of course. You claimed something tangible. I can't prove a negative.

    Is this really that hard for you.




    Nope. Just say "I was completely wrong about _______________."

    I want to see if you can do it.
    Well you posting what you did showed me all I need to know. Your ego and how much you care about your rep is obvious. You ask others to work and then shy away when you get caught. You also look for random extra stuff (like typing out a specific sentence) even after someone already admitted they were wrong

    You can certainly prove what you said about me if you weren't lying to make yourself look better. If it was so obvious to everyone I would hate any trade, you can simply go back and look at the last trades the Spurs have done and see my thoughts. If they are all negative, you win. If not, you got caught lying. It's really not that difficult.

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    Well, I don't think teams really got better with any moves. OKC is better, but that's because of Durant actually taking a next step in his game (defense has improved, passing/decision making..). Same with the Clips: they added some new pieces but their jump has come from within (Blake beasting and Jordan committing to his role of elite defensive rebounder/finisher).

    Spurs had a real shot to (on paper) separate themselves some from the pack. They can still contend without doing that but their margin for error is none compared to other teams.
    I was referring more to Portland and Houston but I understand what you mean. Im just very concerned that the Spurs didn't counter anything that the other teams were doing this season. It really is like a giant chest match sometimes.

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    The Spurs FO is easily the best in the league. Easily. That doesn't mean they haven't made mistakes. Spurs if they are healthy (big if) obviously can contend, but the Spurs had some room to improve and made some seemingly poor choices this off season.
    So you're saying that this is an unnecessary gamble. After all, this is another Spurs attempt to find a savior. I'm guessing they're thinking, eventually we'll hit the big one.

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    Your ego and how much you care about your rep is obvious. You ask others to work and then shy away when you get caught. You also look for random extra stuff (like typing out a specific sentence) even after someone already admitted they were wrong

    You can certainly prove what you said about me if you weren't lying to make yourself look better. If it was so obvious to everyone I would hate any trade, you can simply go back and look at the last trades the Spurs have done and see my thoughts. If they are all negative, you win. If not, you got caught lying. It's really not that difficult.


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    god damnit why couldnt we trade bonner ayres, for a legitimate agressive AMERICAN BIG
    Got something against overseas players? Spurs have made quite the business on international players.

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    Well you posting what you did showed me all I need to know. Your ego and how much you care about your rep is obvious. You ask others to work and then shy away when you get caught. You also look for random extra stuff (like typing out a specific sentence) even after someone already admitted they were wrong

    You can certainly prove what you said about me if you weren't lying to make yourself look better. If it was so obvious to everyone I would hate any trade, you can simply go back and look at the last trades the Spurs have done and see my thoughts. If they are all negative, you win. If not, you got caught lying. It's really not that difficult.
    I knew you wouldn't be able to say you were wrong.

    It's that important to you.

    I made a negative claim that impossible to prove. It is simply my belief. I doubt you posted anything about Daye before and all the sudden you are spouting advanced stats to argue trading de Colo was a mistake somehow and will cost us a championship.

    It's what you do.

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