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Well, in general it seems that the overriding sentiment among people I know and they represent a wide variety of lifestyles, socioeconomic strata, etc....is for some kind of legalization.
Alaska's attempt to legalize it outright fell on it's face.
I would argue that the majority of posters in this forum do not present a similar demographic as the general population. Posters in a forum such as this tend to be of a higher education and intellect than the average person off the street.
In otherwords, Average Joe is too damn stupid to realize what it actually going on. It's a condescending view but it's also an honest one.
Well, in general it seems that the overriding sentiment among people I know and they represent a wide variety of lifestyles, socioeconomic strata, etc....is for some kind of legalization.
I think a lot of people vote for what they want instead of what they think (if they choose to think about it) is right.
Not that some people aren't legitimately against legalization. But I think a lot of people, if they were forced to really discuss the issue, would tell you that (marijuana at least) should probably be legalized. They just don't want it to be, so they vote against it.
i've said before i'm against the legalization of maryjane. i think it makes it easier for kids to get a hold of it. anyone who really wants it now can get it anyway, so the only law change that i wouldn't mind seeing is giving a ticket in texas instead of jailtime for under an ounce of weed in the car. that way, mouse won't be so effin paranoid all the gotdam time....
I just think there's something fundamentally wrong with throwing an adult in jail for doing something that is only illegal because we don't want kids doing it. You know what I mean? Just make it illegal for the kids. No, it won't keep it out of kids' hands and yes, it would probably make access easier... but I think in the long run it's a fair price to pay for giving adults the right to entertain themselves in a fashion that (itself) is not really harmful to anyone else.
It's illegal, people shouldn't pick which laws to follow. Nobody forces anyone to start smoking, and when they start they know it's illegal.
Well Jaywalking is illegal too, but people dont' get jailtime for that now do they?
Yes, and I'm talking about making it legal. So then it wouldn't be illegal.It's illegal, people shouldn't pick which laws to follow. Nobody forces anyone to start smoking, and when they start they know it's illegal.
the great quote from the late Libertarian Political Director Ron Crickenberger needs to be dusted off again:
"If the government can't keep drugs away from inmates who are locked in steel cages, surrounded by barbed wire, watched by armed guards, drug-tested, strip-searched, X-rayed, and videotaped -- how can it possibly stop the flow of drugs to an entire nation?"
I didn't try weed to be cool but I did hear rumors that some did.
I guess it's like wearing your pants down below your ass is cool to some so they start wearing their pants that way too and soon everybody is doing it?
I don't buy that peer pressure crap. You and only you are in control unless someone is shoving a crack pipe down your throat.
Many try it and never do it again...same with beer, porn, smoking, oral sex.
I think adultery is against the law in about half the States too!!
n/m ...
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OK, I'll amend my statement, SW.
That would leave the users, who then truly ARE only hurting themselves, and possibly their families, much like alcohol abusers.
That still subtracts all of the convenience store operators, liquor store cashiers, pawn brokers, and general passersby who get shot directly for drug money or drug turf wars. Drugs were illegal, SW, and your ex still managed to get them, probably causing a chain of pain that reached FAR beyond your immediate family.
People are going to get drugs, no matter what. We see that. They are going to flush their lives away. What we have to decide is what will be the effect on the rest of society. Are we going continue to foster these inner city DMZs, run and controlled by gangs where people can't live safely and children don't care about an education, because as Manny says, the best job is flingin' rock?
If you have a blob of clay, and you hold it gently in your hand like an egg, you maintain control of the clay. If you squeeze as hard as you can, most of the clay seeps between your fingers, and is lost. We are squeezing the clay.
Shouldn't adults have the right to choose to screw up their life?
They do...they can choose to do drugs and go to jail for it...
I think you are being just a tad shortsighted...I don't think an adult has a right to go around addicted to crack and heroin if they have a child that is dependent upon them.
Since their judgement is impaired I don't think they should have access to the roads that people who don't want to screw up their lives drive on.
I wonder how many drivers on the road are loaded up on prescription drugs.
Seems like half the people I know are on some type of pill.
Right, and if they get pulled over or cause an accident while driving impaired under the influence of those drugs...it is a crime. It is a dui.
You get pulled over and you are zonked out on vicadin or xanax and you will get popped for it.
But I'd argue that even those drugs don't have the impairing impact on your senses, judgement, and driving ability that say...heroin, X, LSD or Shrooms will have.
I mean you just have to realize that there are certain drugs that you take even at small amounts that render you are no longer capable of making rational or sound decisions.
Although I gotta admit...shrooms were fun, with no lasting side effects and organic! It somehow seems wrong to make them illegal. Maybe if you give up your drivers licence you can do them legally.
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Ok, I'm at legalizing Weed and Shrooms(with bigtime restrictions)...this gives the American people a legal form of relaxant and hallucenogenic that are both all natural and organic...And truly shrooms will kick the living crap out of LSD if you eat enough of them.
Now we just have find a legal heavy duty stimulant...maybe we should allow coca plants...
Then make everything else illegal.
All the opiates should remain illegal as they are too addictive and many prescription drugs can give you the same effect with less chance of addiction.
war on drugs? thats so 90's we already bombed the out of them. We one that war don't you know, I mean its never on the news anymore. Now we got the war on terror being fought by the same policy makers.
I agree that shrooms were fun.
Lets be real. There's one reason these things are illegal, and ithas nothing to do with protecting people.
It's all about protecting certain Big Business
http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.co...astasizes.htmlWhen black markets occur for legal commodities - especially ones that don't get you high - it's an indictment of government-sanctioned oligopolies controlling distribution and price. Drug companies on the US side are making a fortune from this over-charging, subsidized by friendly government regulators and now gun wielding law enforcement officers. Don't police have anything better to do than arrest folks for getting legal, prescribed drugs to sick people who need them at a cost they can actually afford?
Just another way Americans are screwed out of $Ts.
Other countries' national health systems buy US/UK/Swiss drugs as "single buyer" and screw down the prices way below what American suckers pay.
btw, there's no stopping the ripoff. Repugs even passed REGULATIONS to force US govt not to negotiate drug, device prices.
if a law had to be passed to make it so, the reverse can happen.btw, there's no stopping the ripoff. Repugs even passed REGULATIONS to force US govt not to negotiate drug, device prices.
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