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    It's kind of funny that a scrub like Granger is complaining about being traded, tbh..

    He's one of the worst rotation players in the league, he needs to accept reality..
    Everyone thought Duncan was done in 11', Ginobili last year, etc.

    It's not like Granger can't make a comeback too.. to me it seems more like rust/finding his game/new role, etc. than being bad itself. I think he's a huge pick-up for any team.. Idk how anyone can twist that.

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    I'm on the fence about it. No telling what he has left in the tank. Motivation can be a huge thing even with a bum body.

    I can see the Spurs going after him before Davis and Clark.

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    Athletes are the last to accept that sort of reality (see Jackson, Stephen). In Granger's mind, he's still Indy's franchise player.
    I think it's more of a case that he feels like there was a loyalty issue. Pacers treated it like business when he prolly felt like he was part of the family w/ what he's been through with the team

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    I would like to have him. I would also like to have Glen Davis or Jamison. There are some real options out there for us to improve our depth, and I hope we can pull one of them off.

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    Well, despite Granger not being very good, he's about as good as you could hope for. At least he doesn't have a coward mentality on top of being unable to perform. One anecdotal edge Spurs might have is that SA & IND are somewhat similar franchises (mindset / market..). On top of that I'm sure the great relationship Tim has with Hibbert surely is noticed by guys on Indy & I'm sure Hill spoke highly of them. If there is a buyout and mutual legit interest I'm sure SA has a good shot.

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    I think it's more of a case that he feels like there was a loyalty issue. Pacers treated it like business when he prolly felt like he was part of the family w/ what he's been through with the team
    Oh, I agree. That's was wrapped up in "franchise player". I'm sure he felt that he should have been allowed to choose how he would leave the Pacers.

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    Well, despite Granger not being very good, he's about as good as you could hope for. At least he doesn't have a coward mentality on top of being unable to perform. One anecdotal edge Spurs might have is that SA & IND are somewhat similar franchises (mindset / market..). On top of that I'm sure the great relationship Tim has with Hibbert surely is noticed by guys on Indy & I'm sure Hill spoke highly of them. If there is a buyout and mutual legit interest I'm sure SA has a good shot.
    I haven't been around much lately. Who was that directed at?

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    Athletes are the last to accept that sort of reality (see Jackson, Stephen). In Granger's mind, he's still Indy's franchise player.
    I think it's a similar case to Rudy Gay... though Gay did use that as fuel to play better for about 10 or so games in Sacramento... sometimes having a player with something to prove works out for the best...

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    He isn't in his prime anymore but would be a good addition nonetheless

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    I think it's a similar case to Rudy Gay... though Gay did use that as fuel to play better for about 10 or so games in Sacramento... sometimes having a player with something to prove works out for the best...
    Yeah, I get all the reasons to want Granger, but the fact that the team that knows him best would rather go to the playoffs with Evan Turner is a huge red flag. Perhaps Granger can be a quality NBA player again at some point, but Indy judged that it won't happen this season.

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    I haven't been around much lately. Who was that directed at?
    No one in particular tbh..I'm just a firm believer in having role players that have a certain mindset and that have at least shown when healthy they were gamers (TMac, Granger, Jax). Even if they are somewhat limited I believe in that mindset vs a guy like Bonner who currently struggles not only physically, but mentally (passes up shots, ect..)

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    Yeah, I get all the reasons to want Granger, but the fact that the team that knows him best would rather go to the playoffs with Evan Turner is a huge red flag. Perhaps Granger can be a quality NBA player again at some point, but Indy judged that it won't happen this season.
    I agree overall but I also think team need played a role. I have no doubt it was mostly because they think Turner>Granger in general but I also think they really needed a ball handler on the bench and even when healthy Granger isn't that.

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    Not sure how to feel about granger, he's been pretty lousy the last month. I just think in our system maybe he could stretch the floor or if anything spell Kleonard for 10-15 min. I'd prefer a big though.

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    Just saving Bruno some time, tbh

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    Yeah, I get all the reasons to want Granger, but the fact that the team that knows him best would rather go to the playoffs with Evan Turner is a huge red flag. Perhaps Granger can be a quality NBA player again at some point, but Indy judged that it won't happen this season.
    I don't know about that. I think Indy just needed a different type of player. Granger is a gamble no matter what, but if this trade brings him back down to earth and motivates him to get back to working hard, then he could be solid. Tough call, tbh.

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    No one in particular tbh..I'm just a firm believer in having role players that have a certain mindset and that have at least shown when healthy they were gamers (TMac, Granger, Jax). Even if they are somewhat limited I believe in that mindset vs a guy like Bonner who currently struggles not only physically, but mentally (passes up shots, ect..)
    I agree overall but I also think team need played a role. I have no doubt it was mostly because they think Turner>Granger in general but I also think they really needed a ball handler on the bench and even when healthy Granger isn't that.
    Got it on both.

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    For the record, I have no problem with signing Granger. I just have very limited expectations of what he can add. He's certainly an improvement of the vacant space that currently exists on the roster.

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    Danny Granger just made a surprise appearance inside the #Pacers practice facility. Players stopped and hugged him. "I love you, bro." - PG


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    Granger stopped to hug all players, as well as front office personnel: Donnie Walsh, Kevin Pritchard and scouts in attendance.


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    Before Granger's surprise, it was quite a serious & dour mood here. Hibbert announced he was answering 2 questions re: trade & carried on






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    I don't get players needing motivation to play a sport they love while being paid millions. But then again granger hopefully could be useful. Whatever the case I think the buyout was the best chance for the spurs to make a move all along. Should be interesting the next couple of days. I will say regarding our team now, I've been impressed with cjoseph's defense. He looked pretty below avg the whole year. I have more confidence from this team now then from 1-2 months ago. They just need to get healthy and have tp regain his form from last year, if possible

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    Granger should have never looked up to Bird as a father figure, cuz we all know how Larry Legend treats his kids tbh

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    Yeah, I get all the reasons to want Granger, but the fact that the team that knows him best would rather go to the playoffs with Evan Turner is a huge red flag. Perhaps Granger can be a quality NBA player again at some point, but Indy judged that it won't happen this season.
    Maybe there's more to it? If the Pacers think they can lock up Turner cheaper than Stephenson they might be able to stay under the tax and let Lance go. This depends on whether the Pacers are willing to pay the tax but my guess is no.

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    For the record, I have no problem with signing Granger. I just have very limited expectations of what he can add. He's certainly an improvement of the vacant space that currently exists on the roster.
    Agreed. I would be way more excited about Clark tbh...He has some upside left. But either Clark or Granger would be better than Daye so I would be happy.

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    Maybe there's more to it? If the Pacers think they can lock up Turner cheaper than Stephenson they might be able to stay under the tax and let Lance go. This depends on whether the Pacers are willing to pay the tax but my guess is no.
    Perhaps, but that is something INDY didn't have to worry about until next year. Teams that are really close to being a champion probably don't lessen their odds for problems they can address in the off season. Odds are, despite Lance's deal next year, if they though Danny would help them win this year, they would have kept him.

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