Buyout Watch Thread

[Mel_13]

Big Baby >>> Granger? Give me what you're smoking.

Danny Granger hasn't been the player you remember since his injury. There's a reason that Indiana decided to replace him with Evan Turner. He was the face their franchise as recently as the beginning of last season and they let him go for players that the Sixers don't want.

[bklynspursfan]

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Clippers remain a strong frontrunner to sign Glen Davis once he clears waivers, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

[loveforthegame]

I'll be surprised if Davis ends up anywhere besides the Clippers.

[Mugen]

Big Baby >>> Granger? Give me what you're smoking.

have you watched Granger this season? He's been terrible coming off a major injury who's shooting 35% from the field tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Granger has been awful defensively, too, he can barely move anymore..

[Mel_13]

Davis is an obvious fit for the Clippers in much the same way that Diaw was an obvious fit for the Spurs two years ago. He immediately becomes the 3rd big on a team coached by the guy he played under for his first 4 NBA seasons.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah I still want Clark over Granger. Davis would have been nice but he's set on the Clippers.

[Mel_13]

Clark seems like the ideal smallball 4, but Leonard can fill that role too if there's another SF (like Granger) available.

There are many ways of going small, too. Technically PG/SG/SF/SF/C is "smallball" but isn't really that small. Pop's preferred configuration is PG/SG/SG/SF/big (Duncan, Splitter, or Diaw), mainly because of the lack of depth at forward. Something like Parker/Manu/Granger/Leonard/Duncan would definitely hold its own.

Then again I don't know much of anything about how good Granger is nowadays. All I know is that he is a true SF as opposed to Clark (combo forward) and Davis (PF).

I'd rather have Green in that lineup over Granger.

[Dverde]

Clippers are the Don Juan of the NBA. They want everybody on their team, once they have you, they forget about you, and start wanting someone else.

[Mugen]

Clark, Granger + likely Caron Butler & MWP being on the buyout list...none of which puts the Spurs over the top but could provide a valuable 8-10mins off the bench in the playoffs.

The Spurs actually have a pretty damn good small ball lineup with Green/Kawhi at the forward positions. I'm just worried about Leonard getting into foul trouble as well as the lack of a 4th quality big on the roster.

Hopefully, the Spurs don't strike out during the buyout period because adding any one of these guys improves the roster tbh.

[JR3]

Every time I look up the clippers have signed someone else... Sick of it. why does it seem like they have 20 roster spots?...

[Seventyniner]

I'd rather have Green in that lineup over Granger.

I agree. I was just trying to think of a "bigger" smallball lineup, one with two SFs in it. I still consider Green a pure SG. Wasn't Green really bad when slotted as a SF last year and has been better this year? Or is my memory failing me?

[Mel_13]

Every time I look up the clippers have signed someone else... Sick of it. why does it seem like they have 20 roster spots?...

Hedo, Sasha, and SJax are their three most recent signings...

[DPG21920]

Any good source on the likelihood of Clark being bought out?

[monkeypunk]

Hedo, Sasha, and SJax are their three most recent signings...

They've since released Jax and Sasha and I would guess Hedo is next to go.

[loveforthegame]

Any good source on the likelihood of Clark being bought out?

I thought he was waived yesterday?

[hommeaetage]

Any good source on the likelihood of Clark being bought out?

He's been waived per CBS Sports

[Mel_13]

I agree. I was just trying to think of a "bigger" smallball lineup, one with two SFs in it. I still consider Green a pure SG. Wasn't Green really bad when slotted as a SF last year and has been better this year? Or is my memory failing me?

According to 82games, Green's opponent PER as a SF was 13.0 last season and 8.1 this season. Granger's opponent PER this season is 9.0, fwiw.

[DPG21920]

I don't think so but not sure

[kjhip1]

Clippers are so funny. I just can't see them making any noise in the playoffs. When ur focal point is Blake griffin, I'd say they remind me of the Nash led Phoenix suns w stoudemire. They play no defense and they're big men are soft

[DPG21920]

Oh nice. Clark would easily be my num one choice.

[Seventyniner]

According to 82games, Green's opponent PER as a SF was 13.0 last season and 8.1 this season. Granger's opponent PER this season is 9.0, fwiw.

Thanks for the info. In both seasons Green played some SF due to injuries, so hopefully it's improvement on his part and not just small sample size.

In Green's case I'll call it good defense. For Granger, maybe it's dragging his opponent down to his level? Granger himself is at 10.44 this season...

[Mel_13]

Thanks for the info. In both seasons Green played some SF due to injuries, so hopefully it's improvement on his part and not just small sample size.

In Green's case I'll call it good defense. For Granger, maybe it's dragging his opponent down to his level? Granger himself is at 10.44 this season...

According to those numbers, Green has played more minutes at SF than SG this season. As a SG, the opponent PER is 10.1, so Danny has been a quality defender this season by this particular metric.

[Seventyniner]

A few more numbers about Granger: career ~38% 3P (though only 33% this year), very good FT shooter (85% career), WS/48 surprisingly high this year given his bad numbers (0.091, 0.100 is considered average). He'd definitely be better than nothing.

Not sure where I stand on Clark. Not good at 3P (~34%) or FT (high 60s %). I haven't watched him other than that game last year in SA when he seemed to rain down 3s and the Lakers almost came back in SA.

If the Spurs somehow get to choose between the two, the deciding factor would likely be defense. Even in a down year Granger seems to be a better shooter.

[ace3g]

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Charlotte is engaged in contract buyout discussions with Ben Gordon, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.