The football 40

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, look......the only magazine/info you use is the one where get this right is their business...ok? Simply common sense. Track & Field News is in the business of track & field, not every sport like SI, all the mag does is the sport of track & field. Now tell me slick which do you think is going to be legit?

Billy Johnson never ran a 9.5, he is on no list anywhere of doing so. You can't show me when or where it happened because, it didn't.

So the NCAA and Sports Illustrated are wrong and you're right? You really are an old got who refuses to admit when you're wrong....

What purpose would the NCAA and SI have for making up a track time for a then-unknown athlete from a tiny college like Widener?

[Avante]

So the NCAA and Sports Illustrated are wrong and you're right? You really are an old got who refuses to admit when you're wrong....

What purpose would the NCAA and SI have for making up a track time for a then-unknown athlete from a tiny college like Widener?

I'll try again...

I have the lists for every year since 1970, they go to 9.6. Billy Johnson isn't there. I keep up on this stuff guy, you really haven't noticed that?

Show me where and when he ran that time, you can't do it because it never happened. There is a chance he did run a windy 9.5 windy times aren't listed because they don't count.

Dude....HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.... track/footballer freak here, if any footballer runs a 9.5 I know about it.

[Clipper Nation]

I'll try again...

I have the lists for every year since 1970, they go to 9.6. Billy Johnson isn't there. I keep up on this stuff guy, you really haven't noticed that?

Show me where and when he ran that time, you can't do it because it never happened. There is a chance he did run a windy 9.5 windy times aren't listed because they don't count.

Why would the NCAA and SI make up a track time that didn't happen?

[Avante]

Why would the NCAA and SI make up a track time that didn't happen?

Why would I have access to that info and him not be there?

Why is RGIII called a ...world class hurdler...when he never was?

[Clipper Nation]

Why would I have access to that info and him not be there?

So you admit there would be no reason for the NCAA and SI to make up a fake track time....

[Avante]

So you admit there would be no reason for the NCAA and SI to make up a fake track time....

So you are telling me despite the fact there is no 9.5 listed anywhere for Billy Johnson you still believe it because of what you read with no proof....right?

Do you understand what I mean when I talk about ..lists? I don't think you do.

Dude, this is what's going on right now with the indoor season.

50 METERS
5.72		Marcus Rowland (unat)	Saskatoon	01/31
5.73		Cordero Gray (Nik)	Saskatoon	01/31
5.84		Kyle Stevenson (unat)	Saskatoon	01/31

55 METERS
6.18		Marvin Bracy (adi)	Carnes Inv	01/17
		Trell Kimmons (unat)	Nashville	02/01
Foreign Collegians:
6.11		***Odean Skeen (SPl-Jam)	Lubbock	02/01

60 METERS
6.50		Marvin Bracy (adi)	Millrose G	02/15
6.53(A)		Joe Morris (unat)	Albuquerque	01/18
6.54		D’Angelo Cherry (Asics)	Millrose G	02/15
		Mike Rodgers (Nik)	Houston	02/01
6.55(A)		***Cameron Burrell (Hous)	Albuquerque	01/25
		-Clayton Vaughn (UTA)	Sevigne Inv	02/08
6.56		-Prezel Hardy (TxAM)	A&M 10-Team	01/17
(A)		-Dentarius Locke (FlSt)	Albuquerque	01/25
(A)		-Ryan Milus (AzSt)	NnAz Team	01/17
6.58(A)		Mark Jelks (unat)	Colorado Springs	02/15
(10)
6.59(A)		***Tatum Benard-Taylor (AzSt)	Flagstaff	01/25
(A)		Jeffery Henderson (CVE)	Albuquerque	01/18
		Keith Ricks (unat)	CNU Open	12/07
6.60(A)		**Raymond Bozmans (TCU)	New Mexico Inv	02/01
		**Leshon Collins (Hous)	Houston	01/11
		**Tevin Hester (Clem)	Armory Coll Inv	02/07
		**Markesh Woodson (Mo)	Armory Coll Inv	02/07
6.61		*Diondre Batson (Al)	Indiana R	02/01
		**Devin Jenkins (Sn)	Houston	02/01
6.62		Ryan Bailey (Nik)	Washington Inv	01/31
(20)
		Dominique Hubert (unat)	Indiana R	02/01
		Trell Kimmons (adi)	Houston	01/11
		***Jalen Miller (Ms)	Armory Coll Inv	02/07
		Marcus Rowland (unat)	Auburn Inv	01/18
6.63		*BeeJay Lee (USC)	Seattle	01/18
		Mookie Salaam (unat)	Auburn Inv	01/18
		Ivory Williams (WEx)	Birmingham	02/14
		**Antwan Wright (Fl)	Birmingham	01/11
6.64		*Hugh Graham (Fl)	Iowa State Cl	02/14
		Mickey Grimes (unat)	Naperville	01/25
(30)
(A)		Jared Ware (unat)	Flagstaff	01/25
6.65		***Trayvon Bromell (Bay)	Lexington	01/25
(A)		Jeremy Dodson (BouTC)	Colorado Springs	02/15
(A)		-Michael Granger (Ms)	Albuquerque	02/15
		Cordero Gray (Nik)	Houston	02/14
		***Tyreek Hill (OkSt)	Tyson Inv	02/14
6.66		Harry Adams (Nik)	Birmingham	12/06
6.67		Jeremy Hardy (unat)	Auburn Inv	01/18
(A)		*Reggie Lewis (Clem)	Albuquerque	01/25
		Sean McLean (unat)	Winston-Salem	01/19
(40)
Foreign Collegians:
6.55(A)		-Aaron Brown (USC-Can)	Albuquerque	02/15
6.64		**Andre De Grasse (Coffey-Can)	Sevigne Inv	02/08
		***Senoj-Jay Givans (Tx-Jam)	Tyson Inv	02/14
6.65		*Shavez Hart (TxAM-Bah)	Texas A&M Inv	02/15
6.66		-Romel Lewis (Linc-Jam)	Allendale	02/01

Ok man, I've been seeing these lists since 1970 at no time did we ever read.....9.5 Billy Johnson...because it never happened.

[Clipper Nation]

So you are telling me despite the fact there is no 9.5 listed anywhere for Billy Johnson you still believe it because of what you read with no proof....right?

Do you understand what I mean when I talk about ..lists? I don't think you do.

All this deflecting and still no reason given for why they'd make up a fake track time....

[Avante]

All this deflecting and still no reason given for why they'd make up a fake track time....

Let me put it to ya like this then.

The magazine that is the best source for anything having to with track never listed a 9.5 for Billy Johnson. I look into fast footballers, I keep up on it like in....Jim Thorpe back in the teens....and I;ve never seen a 9.5 for Billy Johnson.

Could it have slipped by myself and a magazine that keeps up on that info......highly unlikely.

Look into Billy Johnson at the DIVIII Championship meet, he's nowhere to be found. Look for 9.5 Billy Johnson on anything having to do with the NCAA.....NOPE!

Where is this time. what meet, what month?

Didn't you just tell me.....magazines make mistakes?

[Clipper Nation]

Didn't you just tell me.....magazines make mistakes?

SI's story is backed up by the NCAA.... just because he's not in YOUR almanac lists doesn't mean it never happened

[Avante]

SI's story is backed up by the NCAA.... just because he's not in YOUR almanac lists doesn't mean it never happened

Dude you really aren't getting this at all, why am I not surprised?

I don't have any almanacs, ok? I have the last word on the sport ...TRACK & FIELD NEWS MAGAZINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you have any clue at all what I;'m talking about there? Did you open the link to their web page...of course not. Everyone...EVERYONE...into track swears by that magazine.

THEY NEVER LISTED A 9.5 FOR BILLY JOHNSON BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Ok,ok, tell ya what I;m going to do, I know the editor of the magazine he is a friend of mine, will you go with what he says about this?

See the cat on the cover, he would smoke Billy Johnson and he's a decathlete.

[Avante]

rack and Field Statistics

USA Main > Search

Search Criteria Men Women First Name: Last Name: Event: All100 m200 m400 m800 m1500 m1 Mile5000 m10000 mMarathon110 m Hurdles400 m Hurdles3000 m Steeplechase60 m Hurdles4 x 100 m Relay4 x 400 m Relay20 km Road Walk50 km Road WalkHigh JumpPole VaultLong JumpTriple JumpShot PutDiscus ThrowHammer ThrowJavelin ThrowDecathlon Country: United States

Search Results No matches found for the specified criteria

This site has everyone who ever ran a 9.5 notice the.....No matches found......what's that tell you?

[Blake]

See the cat on the cover, he would smoke Billy Johnson and he's a decathlete.

did he play for the oilers?

[Avante]

did he play for the oilers?

Totally missed the point as usual.

Let's say Johnson did run that 9,5.

Oilers

Andy Hopkins 9.2
Tony Jones 10.2
Herkie Walls 10.3
Charlie Frazier 9.4
Billy Cannon 9.5
Bill Groman 9.5
Billy Johnson 9.5

How many times have I heard...."you Googled"....that, it's all on Google. Ok then why is finding this 9,5 so difficult?

While in Texas.

Obviously Bob Hayes was the fastest Cowboy, how about the Texans? How about the old Dallas Texans?

[Sean Cagney]

Neither of them were known for collegiate track success.

What about Drew Hill then? Givins was fast I know but Hill had to be fast at only 5'9 to thrive in the league as long as he did.

[Avante]

Drew Hill was no track guy or a speedster, a sluggish 4.58 40 guy.

[Avante]

This is last seasons DivIII Championships 100m final


Finals
1 Thurgood Dennis SO Wis.-Eau Claire 10.77
2 Sean Bernstein SR Oneonta 10.77
3 Bruce Gray SO Greenville 10.94
4 Aaron Pannell JR inson 10.99
5 Thierry Diessongo SO CCNY 11.01
6 Alex Koenen SO Wis.-La Crosse 11.02
7 Ackeme Brown SR Ramapo 11.15
8 Jonathan Padron JR Occidental 11.16
9 Gavin Colley SO Widener 11.21

11's...hhahaha!!!!!!!!!! You can imagine how lame this was back in the day.

There's a Widener sprinter, look at those sluggish times, this is why Johnson starred. Most state HS meets produce better times.

[Avante]

Walter Dix is one of the top 10 fastest sprinters in the world. He ran for FSU. He has anchored the USA Olympic 4x1 team, he is not footballer.

[Avante]

The 4.3 guys could run with the great 100m sprinters up to around the 50, then the superior...speed endurance ...that real sprinters who train at distances like 300/400 would kick in. The great Usain Bolt wouldn't seperate himself at 40, but after 50.......gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[Avante]

You won't believe your eyes, this kid would have played football at FSU but he's simply too damn fast for football, so he runs on the pro track circuit and just won our Nationals in the 60. If I had to guess a combine 40 time for him right now, hmmm....4.20.

[FkLA]

Brush off the haters, Vante.

Where do you rank former UTSA track star and current Cardinals WR Teddy Williams in your fastest active players list ?

[Avante]

Brush off the haters, Vante.

Where do you rank former UTSA track star and current Cardinals WR Teddy Williams in your fastest active players list ?

As far as legit NCAA sprinters who "also" played football currently in the NFL.

Trindon Holliday
Jeff Demps
Jacoby Ford
Teddy Williams
Jamaal Charles

Williams could have done far more as a trackster, he had that 200 ability also, something none of the others mentioned had. They were more 60/100 except for Charles who was also a hurdler.

Never have figured out why so many here like to stay limited?????

[pgardn]

Defensive players chase and at the same time have to avoid being blocked. Some chase more and avoid blocks less. DL the other way around. Some are very good at instinctively positioning themselves so they do both very well.

Offensive players, it's a bit more specialized. Guys like Rice could "see" opponent's balance and change directions at precise imbalance moments so they are very hard to catch or cover. There are some relatively slow players that are very hard to catch or cover. Acceleration, which encompasses, starting, stopping, and changing direction is huge. But this can be offset by the ability to read an opponents body language; To feel an off balanced opponent, whether engaged, or in an open field situation.

Track... BS for football. Sure it helps to be fast. But chasing and avoiding being caught are fundamental. The film tells so much more.

Coaches take note, Clowney was absolutely gassed in a number of games this season. Figure out why.

[Avante]

Defensive players chase and at the same time have to avoid being blocked. Some chase more and avoid blocks less. DL the other way around. Some are very good at instinctively positioning themselves so they do both very well.

Offensive players, it's a bit more specialized. Guys like Rice could "see" opponent's balance and change directions at precise imbalance moments so they are very hard to catch or cover. There are some relatively slow players that are very hard to catch or cover. Acceleration, which encompasses, starting, stopping, and changing direction is huge. But this can be offset by the ability to read an opponents body language; To feel an off balanced opponent, whether engaged, or in an open field situation.

Track... BS for football. Sure it helps to be fast. But chasing and avoiding being caught are fundamental. The film tells so much more.

Coaches take note, Clowney was absolutely gassed in a number of games this season. Figure out why.

You nailed and I can see you understand the game.

Speed is just fun to talk about.

[pgardn]

You nailed and I can see you understand the game.

Speed is just fun to talk about.

Sure it is because it's amazing a human body can do what Bolt can, or Paavo Nurmi did.

[Avante]

Sure it is because it's amazing a human body can do what Bolt can, or Paavo Nurmi did.

PAAVO NURMI...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How in the do you know about Nurmi?