Really? Can you do ent that claim?it's funny how pretentious people get about kids once they have them
it's selfish not to have kids
what's selfish about knowing how to control your load? most kids aren't planned.
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it's funny how pretentious people get about kids once they have them
what's selfish about knowing how to control your load? most kids aren't planned.
To a certain extent, it is selfish.
Oh, and you should thank your parents for either (1) planning you or (2) not controlling his load
on the contrary, some of the most selfish people i've known are parents. they use their kids to gain access into the community and pressure them to do the things they wished they achieved as a kids. i don't understand that if someone is so dissatisfied with their own lives, why do they feel the need to have kids in order to vicariously live through them? it makes me feel bad for the kids.
instead of being obsessed with what all the other parents are doing, they need to be giving their kids a real extracurricular education like learning a second language and music theory instead of trying to letter in 10 different sports and ROTC.
maybe some people feel that if they did have a kid, they wouldn't be able to provide what the kid really needs? maybe some people have a genetic condition that they don't want to pass on? maybe some people are comfortable with their significant other and prefer to use their lives to achieve their own goals?
i really don't understand why it's selfish to not have kids.
No argument that there are a lot of unintended pregnancies especially among lower socioeconomic groups but most have it in the mid 40's. Even in the text of the article Guttenbergs number disagrees with the US Dept of Health.
we can talk numbers all day, but it's not like all children are brought in on a red carpet because their parents had full intention of having them.
plus, i'm sure many married couples "mistime" their kids and act like they were planned. there's absolutely nothing wrong with that if they can still provide for them, but i think there's a lot of denial going on by telling themselves "it's because everyone who doesn't have kids is selfish."
No argument there. I think it's selfish to have kids you clearly can't afford.
Some people have kids cause they're selfish. They are probably insecure about heir own failures in life that they feel they have to procreate in order to make up for themselves sucking at life.
I don't know anyone that fits that description.
money doesn't necessarily buy happiness but its sure as better to have money than not to have it
Calculating the price of a kid? Obviously you don't have one bc bc they're cheap. Some cold ers in here tbh.
Truth. It's actually common sense, when one (one being one who is not an idiot) thinks about it.
That said, this isn't the age of the Nuclear Family anymore. I expect my girl/wife to work at least 30 hours a week.
What't the point of marrying someone if she has to work? Isn't the purpose of her marrying you to have someone to provide and support her?
I thought it was about love and acceptance and companionship, but , maybe I'm old fashioned.
Well that too but I don't see why a man would even look for a wife if he isn't financially stable. Just the way I see it. Doesn't make you less of a man or husband either way.
People are wildly irresponsible for having kids without financial planning. That argument (utility) is the same whether it's a kid or a house or a car. You don't want to be house poor, same as kid poor. You are doing yourself, spouse and kid a huge disservice if you don't financially plan before you have a kid.
lol what? This isn't 1840. Many women love to work and are damn good at their jobs. They love working and it would be selfish to take that away.
.. what does that have to do with her working 30 hours a week so we can get ahead? These days, what woman doesn't work 30 hours at least?
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying if a woman should decide not to work a man should be able to support her. (Husband)
That's not what you said at all, bro, tbh.
Sure, but that is a decision you make as a couple (either way). The point of being with someone is enriching each other's lives and if someone wants to work (or has to work) that's just part of the equation.
Because a man should be able to support his spouse, he is her provider. If she wants to work then awesome, but if not her husband should at least be able to provide a house and vehicle. Nothing wrong with wanting to get ahead, but a woman should not feel obligated to work to provide for her family, that is a mans job.
If you have kids, you'll enjoy when you don't. If you don't have kids, you need to keep it that way. Kids are fine as long as you can visit them like zoo animals. You don't want to take an elephant or monkey to your house, but they are cool to see now and then. Same with kids. Grandkids are even better, because you're automatically expected to only visit so you don't have to move out of state or make payments.
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