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    5th season? I didn't think he was around that long, should have just went with the open roster spot.

    Would the Spurs be willing to cut this guy if they need the roster spot?

    I'd prefer Clark, Granger, Metta, any combination of those three over keeping him on the roster.
    Baynes would be the obvious candidate to be cut if they decide to add a couple of players.

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    Thanks for the info, I didn't know the specifics on D league roster movement.


    That sorta doesn't say they can't d league him though, just that they have to jump through a hoop or two first by getting consent.
    True. But I don't think it's common for teams to ask players beyond their second year to go to the D-League unless they're recovering from an injury. He certainly would benefit from it considering he's hardly played basketball this year (or very much the previous few years for that matter).

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    It would be bad mistake to cut Baynes. He is not going to be a regular rotation player, but he can fluster Dwight Howard if Spurs face Rockets in playoffs. He has played in the Olympics, has faced Howard, knows Spurs system. Brown would be the guy to cut.

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    New #Spurs Austin Daye says he weighs 218, not 200 as officially listed; 6-11, 218 sounds better than 6-11, 200

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    Daye says he envisions himself more as a backup SF than a stretch four ... though he played the latter mostly in practice today.




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    I wish this trade happened earlier. As I said before, 2010 Daye actually looked like he was going to be a good player. He probably won't get a lot of chances to be in real game situations like we would have had the team had him the last month.

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    I wish this trade happened earlier. As I said before, 2010 Daye actually looked like he was going to be a good player. He probably won't get a lot of chances to be in real game situations like we would have had the team had him the last month.
    But given that Daye has sucked, maybe he would have been as unproductive in SA while taking minutes from more deserving players.

    Anyway, I can't tell if the Spurs actually view Daye as a reclamation project or just want his mostly unguaranteed salary for draft-day deals. Maybe both.

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    But given that Daye has sucked, maybe he would have been as unproductive in SA while taking minutes from more deserving players.

    Anyway, I can't tell if the Spurs actually view Daye as a reclamation project or just want his mostly unguaranteed salary for draft-day deals. Maybe both.
    My feeling is that when they viewed the assets received in return for Nando, they ranked them in this order:

    1. 1.4M trade exception

    2. Mostly unguaranteed contract for draft day deals.

    3. Daye's potential value as an NBA player.

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    But given that Daye has sucked, maybe he would have been as unproductive in SA while taking minutes from more deserving players.

    Anyway, I can't tell if the Spurs actually view Daye as a reclamation project or just want his mostly unguaranteed salary for draft-day deals. Maybe both.
    As Mel said, they get a $1.563 Million TE, which is probably the best asset the Spurs have had in a while (that they'd be willing to use). I think they like him as a player, though. He as a rare combination of shooting and height. Even if they don't consider him to the future, I can't see them waiving him until after he competes with LJC and/or Bertans in camp.

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    As Mel said, they get a $1.563 Million TE, which is probably the best asset the Spurs have had in a while (that they'd be willing to use). I think they like him as a player, though. He as a rare combination of shooting and height. Even if they don't consider him to the future, I can't see them waiving him until after he competes with LJC and/or Bertans in camp.
    That contract becomes fully guaranteed on June 30th.

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    As Mel said, they get a $1.563 Million TE, which is probably the best asset the Spurs have had in a while (that they'd be willing to use). I think they like him as a player, though. He as a rare combination of shooting and height. Even if they don't consider him to the future, I can't see them waiving him until after he competes with LJC and/or Bertans in camp.
    I didn't think a TE could be combined with another player. If not, how much value would it have?

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    I didn't think a TE could be combined with another player. If not, how much value would it have?
    It can't be combined. It can be used to take back a contract up to 1.563M.

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    Why in the is this thread 13 pages? We traded a scrub for a scrub. This dude might get garbage time minutes.

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    Why in the is this thread 13 pages? We traded a scrub for a scrub. This dude might get garbage time minutes.

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    That contract becomes fully guaranteed on June 30th.
    Considering they were willing to pay the rest of Thomas' contract, I don't think they'd be opposed to paying Daye not to play. The fact is the team may well go into next season with nothing but prospects behind Leonard. Daye has just as much of a chance of winning a YC compe ion as Bertans and Jean-Charles do.

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    I didn't think a TE could be combined with another player. If not, how much value would it have?
    It can't. Nor can it be traded. Bruno says the Spurs used the min exception to take Daye. If that's true, they essentially traded De Colo for nothing, which would create a TE for De Colo's full salary plus $100k.

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    Considering they were willing to pay the rest of Thomas' contract, I don't think they'd be opposed to paying Daye not to play. The fact is the team may well go into next season with nothing but prospects behind Leonard. Daye has just as much of a chance of winning a YC compe ion as Bertans and Jean-Charles do.
    A bit apples and oranges as Daye's contract will count against next year's cap, but you're probably right. The difference in potential cap space is very small and the Spurs will probably be using the MLE this summer anyway.

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    A bit apples and oranges as Daye's contract will count against next year's cap, but you're probably right. The difference in potential cap space is very small and the Spurs will probably be using the MLE this summer anyway.
    Yeah, Diaw and potentially Mills will eat the cap space, not to mention the team may not even use most of the MLE if they plan to preserve 2015 cap space. They'll be in the same position they are in this season, I assume.

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    It can't. Nor can it be traded. Bruno says the Spurs used the min exception to take Daye. If that's true, they essentially traded De Colo for nothing, which would create a TE for De Colo's full salary plus $100k.
    Right then. What can a ~$1.6M TE be used for? Get a team just barely over the tax to send you a pick and a player into the TE? Trade the Spurs' first-round pick for a good player on their rookie contract and a second-rounder?

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    Yeah, Diaw and potentially Mills will eat the cap space
    Poor Patty. There's usually not much left on the table after Boris eats.

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    Right then. What can a ~$1.6M TE be used for? Get a team just barely over the tax to send you a pick and a player into the TE? Trade the Spurs' first-round pick for a good player on their rookie contract and a second-rounder?
    Yes. And it would let them claim certain players they couldn't this season. It would make for an interesting draft night.

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    Poor Patty. There's usually not much left on the table after Boris eats.


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    For people having some doubts about the TE generated, it now appears in espn trade machine.

    This trade being good salary/asset wise depends on Duncan decision:
    - If Duncan retires, Spurs will likely take the cap space road and this trade would have taken away $250K of it. It will hurt Spurs.
    - If Duncan continues, Spurs will likely take the MLE and LLE road. The $250K won't matter since Spurs will be far from the luxury tax. The TE and Daye's partially contract are trade assets.

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