At what point does life become comfortable? Financially speaking...

[z0sa]

Because a man should be able to support his spouse, he is her provider. If she wants to work then awesome, but if not her husband should at least be able to provide a house and vehicle. Nothing wrong with wanting to get ahead, but a woman should not feel obligated to work to provide for her family, that is a mans job.

I guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I'm not eschewing a man's personal responsibility, but this isn't the 50's anymore. Plenty (most?) of women nowadays are career women who work 30-40 hours a week or are going to school, and I tremendously respect, AND expect that. There are exceptions, for example, I'm all for a man supporting his wife when she's pregnant or caring for a newborn. But in the vast majority of cases, I would say it's not even my decision - she will want to get ahead and drive her own badass car and have her own money and the only way she can do that in a normal relationship is if she has her own job. Yeah, there's men out there making 100k here in TX who can afford that , that's not me (yet). You seem inexperienced tbh.

[FkLA]

And I think that when people address the problem of lazy-ass parasitic s, they're not referring to the Mexican government but the ethnicity (which includes all people of Mexican descent)

You misunderstood, amigo chino.

I meant most Mexican immigrants and 1st/2nd generation Mex-Americans aren't the parasitic ones. Its the later generations that have been Americanized that abuse the system. Yall talk about assimilation, well that's part of it since it's an American thing to leech off the system. Can't expect them to assimilate and then complain that they have become lazy Americans tbh.

[RD2191]

I guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I'm not eschewing a man's personal responsibility, but this isn't the 50's anymore. Plenty (most?) of women nowadays are career women who work 30-40 hours a week or are going to school, and I tremendously respect, AND expect that. There are exceptions, for example, I'm all for a man supporting his wife when she's pregnant or caring for a newborn. But in the vast majority of cases, I would say it's not even my decision - she will want to get ahead and drive her own badass car and have her own money and the only way she can do that in a normal relationship is if she has her own job. You seem inexperienced tbh.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying a woman shouldn't work, if she wants to work then more power to her. I'm saying a woman shouldn't work if she doesn't want to. Now if she want's a Range Rover and McMansion then yes, she may have to work.

[Nbadan]

In SA about a 1.50/yr is enough to live comfortably...

[GoodOdor]

If you have kids, you'll enjoy when you don't. If you don't have kids, you need to keep it that way. Kids are fine as long as you can visit them like zoo animals. You don't want to take an elephant or monkey to your house, but they are cool to see now and then. Same with kids. Grandkids are even better, because you're automatically expected to only visit so you don't have to move out of state or make payments.

[Rogue]

If you have kids, you'll enjoy when you don't. If you don't have kids, you need to keep it that way. Kids are fine as long as you can visit them like zoo animals. You don't want to take an elephant or monkey to your house, but they are cool to see now and then. Same with kids. Grandkids are even better, because you're automatically expected to only visit so you don't have to move out of state or make payments.

but parenthood is a bitter yet inevitable step to grand parenthood imho.

[TE]

If you have kids, you'll enjoy when you don't. If you don't have kids, you need to keep it that way. Kids are fine as long as you can visit them like zoo animals. You don't want to take an elephant or monkey to your house, but they are cool to see now and then. Same with kids. Grandkids are even better, because you're automatically expected to only visit so you don't have to move out of state or make payments.

[SnakeBoy]

To a certain extent, it is selfish.

In what way is it selfish?

[silverblk mystix]

when you learn to stop needing and craving things

[GoodOdor]

when you learn to stop needing and craving things

"I wanna drive a mustang"

[silverblk mystix]

"I wanna drive a mustang"

dumbass


needing/craving are the key words....

[SnakeBoy]

when you learn to stop needing and craving things

Things like children?

[silverblk mystix]

Things like children?

the thread is about finances...


but if you need and crave ANYTHING - including children - you are already ed

[SnakeBoy]

the thread is about finances...

The topic changed as often happens.

[sook]

is that chick in your sig the one you plan on having kids with? The second you impregnate her with the 2nd she'll look like a tranny.

[TE]

the thread is about finances...


but if you need and crave ANYTHING - including children - you are already ed

What should I crave then, iyo

[silverblk mystix]

What should I crave then, iyo

It depends on how unhappy you want to be.

The more attachments (craving things and thinking you need them to be happy) you have the more happiness gets taken away.

[The Gemini Method]

Usually it lasts until the Lean wears off...then it is all downhill after that.

[Spur-Addict]

Desire is different in each type person, I can't measure that for others. As far as kids are concerned, I can't think of a justifiable reason to have any. Some innate feeling isn't good enough, nor is passing on a legacy (As that seems selfish and ridiculous because you can't control that). So I shun that whole process. Plenty of people who are in the world that I can form relationships with. My advice, protect your semen, and protect your means of production.

[Nbadan]

It depends on how unhappy you want to be.

The more attachments (craving things and thinking you need them to be happy) you have the more happiness gets taken away.

Now that is a ed up way of looking at relationships.....

[Nbadan]

Desire is different in each type person, I can't measure that for others. As far as kids are concerned, I can't think of a justifiable reason to have any. Some innate feeling isn't good enough, nor is passing on a legacy (As that seems selfish and ridiculous because you can't control that). So I shun that whole process. Plenty of people who are in the world that I can form relationships with. My advice, protect your semen, and protect your means of production.

Different strokes for different folks...raising children is the greatest reward, commitment and responsibility you could ever have in your life...

[silverblk mystix]

Now that is a ed up way of looking at relationships.....

Of course, most sleeping people do the opposite...


they crave and need each other and profess to being UNABLE to live without the other -

(which is a nice definition of -addiction - )


and then label it - LOVE!


That is more what you are used to.

[Spur-Addict]

Different strokes for different folks...raising children is the greatest reward, commitment and responsibility you could ever have in your life...

With no disrespect intended, that's one of the most depressing things I've ever heard.

[leemajors]

Now that is a ed up way of looking at relationships.....

no. it's just derivative Buddhishm

[Spanklin]

Comfortable is all about your house payment tbh. You should never buy a house more than 2.5-3 times your annual income, excluding your wife's, with at least 20% down. Even less than 2.5 if interest rates are higher. So $50k/yr and $120,000 is the maximum loan you can afford, and you'll still be broke for the next 30 yeas.